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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:32 pm to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:32 pm to GEAUXmedic
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I can tell you right now, the Black community isn't going to like how they respond to riots.
Please explain.
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:32 pm to STLhog
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If you live in a USA city, I care about the mob and the safety of my household and family.
Then rely on your leaders to protect you or protect yourself, don't corrupt the justice system by wanting an unjust outcome to placate over-emotional idiots.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:33 pm to GEAUXmedic
Oh shite this is Chauvin's body cam footage playing now. Public hasn't seen this before.
ETA
his camera fell off only a couple minutes in and stayed under the vehicle.
ETA
his camera fell off only a couple minutes in and stayed under the vehicle.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:33 pm to GEAUXmedic
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He says he's claustrophobic but he was just sitting in an suv just like this.
Literally was the driver of a Mercedes when police pulled up
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:34 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Plus there's no duty for police to render aid.
Really? I guess I just assumed they would.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:35 pm to hnds2th
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Is the jury sequestered?
Nope.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:35 pm to hnds2th
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Is the jury sequestered?
Not until deliberations
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:36 pm to GEAUXmedic
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over-emotional idiots
I'd argue your complete denial of the possibility that Chauvin showed poor judgement/unnecessary action is the same.
But we're not going to agree so let's not poison the thread, there is lots of good information in here.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:36 pm to dragonNRG45
Jury recessed until 9:15am-9:30am tomorrow
Looks like the court is taking up other case-related matters now
Looks like the court is taking up other case-related matters now
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:36 pm to tiger91
Nope, the courts have ruled police have no duty to aid or protect anyone.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:37 pm to RealDawg
25:55 after first officers checks pulse (not Chauvin) he says "I can't find one" that is not going to play well.
One minute later Chauvin checks pulse and offices says ..here they are medical is there.
28:44 little less than three minutes later Chauvin removes kneed and they lift him up
Optics of keeping the knee on him for those three minutes after he stopped moving and guy said he had no pulse won't sit well with jury despite all the drug claims. At that point, they should have moved to life saving measures.
One minute after first pulse check ambulance arrives.
Now...did he pass out because of knee, drug related, or both. Obviously drugs played a heavy roll no matter what. He was going full blast and having conversations with dude on the side walk for 3 minutes while he was down. Still moving (breathing) less than minute before pulse was checked.
One minute later Chauvin checks pulse and offices says ..here they are medical is there.
28:44 little less than three minutes later Chauvin removes kneed and they lift him up
Optics of keeping the knee on him for those three minutes after he stopped moving and guy said he had no pulse won't sit well with jury despite all the drug claims. At that point, they should have moved to life saving measures.
One minute after first pulse check ambulance arrives.
Now...did he pass out because of knee, drug related, or both. Obviously drugs played a heavy roll no matter what. He was going full blast and having conversations with dude on the side walk for 3 minutes while he was down. Still moving (breathing) less than minute before pulse was checked.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:37 pm to GEAUXmedic
And my husband tells me the internet is a time pit.
I've learned a lot this past year ...
I've learned a lot this past year ...
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:37 pm to STLhog
Don't see how anyone could sit through those videos and think that was anything other than an overdose.
The fricker killed himself and America burned for it...
The fricker killed himself and America burned for it...
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:37 pm to STLhog
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I'd argue your complete denial of the possibility that Chauvin showed poor judgement/unnecessary action is the same.
He literally followed protocol.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:38 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Plus there's no duty for police to render aid.
That's not true anymore. There are plenty of civil cases where the Plaintiffs have prevailed in "Duty to Provide Aid" against police. The argument goes: "If you carry a gun and can foreseeably use it on someone, you should be trained and equipped to provide them aid afterwards." Juries have bitten on that shiny hook several times. I have case citations FWIW.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:38 pm to jbgleason
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"If you carry a gun and can foreseeably use it on someone, you should be trained and equipped to provide them aid afterwards
This wasn't a gun situation.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:40 pm to jbgleason
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Plus there's no duty for police to render aid.
EMS was onsite (not to Floyd yet) all but less than a minute he was apparently out.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:40 pm to GEAUXmedic
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He literally followed protocol.
Another truly honest question: how far does protocol go? Meaning does it say do that until subdued? Until help arrives? I truly have no clue.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:41 pm to GEAUXmedic
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This wasn't a gun situation.
I know. The cases I have are for shootings but there are others. Point being that the plaintiffs lawyers have had success with going from Use of Force to a Duty to Provide Aid. It's not hard to see how a jury could get there.
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