re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

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I don't need to see those posts to see all your posts in this thread and see you doing your usual bullshite that you're now going to try to playoff as misunderstood

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I don't even know what you're talking about. Let me ask you this, what do you think that I was trying to say earlier? Do you think I was trying to defend the rapists? Is that your issue? If so then you completely misread what I was posting likely out of emotions

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won't someone have to prove that they willfully allowed underage kids into the bar? With fake ID's being so good these days, how can the bar be liable if that is how the kids get in?

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The standard of proof in civil suits are much lower than in criminal. I imagine Brooks's family will have attorneys that can easily pick apart the way bars in Tigerland run their business. As you've seen in the chat, it is common knowledge that Reggie's has not played by the rules all the time and is known to be an underage hangout spot.

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probably a fake ID

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possibly the id of an older brother or cousin who looks a bit like him

reggie's is full of obvious teenagers with an ID that says they are 23+. i know from experience that it works more often that not

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Idk what her Blood alcohol was but high enough that alone removes any idea of consent.

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Yep. Theres no excuse for what they did. Crime of opportunity.

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won't someone have to prove that they willfully allowed underage kids into the bar? With fake ID's being so good these days, how can the bar be liable if that is how the kids get in?

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Probably not to that extent. It would likely just have to be shown the bar was negligent in the degree in which they checked IDs and/or that the bar, through its employees, had actual or constructive knowledge underaged kids were routinely allowed in. Credible testimony could be enough to meet that burden of proof.

For instance, if Reggies had an ID scanner that they used, without fail, for every person that entered the bar they may have a strong defense. But if there is testimony, likely from employees themselves, that they were terribly diligent in checking IDs, that would be a different story...even if they weren't technically "willfully" allowing underage kids to enter.

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I have no idea how bad it is at Reggies...if they are not checking ID's at all, that is an issue

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The issue comes moreso with the fact that someone of age will buy a drink and give it to someone underage that has a giant black X Sharpied on their hand. Bouncers and bartenders not actively stopping that is part of what makes Reggie's the place it became.

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perhaps bars will be forced to purchase scanners the better determine the legitimacy of an ID

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I know Ivar's started scanning awhile back. I have no idea what all goes into a fake ID. I do know that my ex from way back bought one with a group of friends that used Bitcoin to buy around 10 fakes for ($50/ID at the time) and they were supposed to be scannable, they just needed to provide a picture of themselves with the blue background.

A big part of the case would be the inability for the bartenders to cut people off from drinking that they knew were getting irresponsibly drunk.

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The issue comes moreso with the fact that someone of age will buy a drink and give it to someone underage that has a giant black X Sharpied on their hand. Bouncers and bartenders not actively stopping that is part of what makes Reggie's the place it became.

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don't they literally have her sitting on a stool at the bar white girl wasted?

So two options: black x on hand and she's drunk or fake ID which would have been on person at time of accident.

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Or how many hours was she walking around in the bar with a big fricking x on her hand? your knighting for the "purchase of the alcohol" is a horrible look.

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Do we know for certain she had any drinks while in Reggies?

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Lsupimp

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Thanks, Lsupimp.

Look, I may be making assumptions here, but no way this girl gets in to a car with these POS thugs unless she is completely wasted (by her own accord or not). These were predatory men/boys, and to hear the tattletale say he "hated" hearing this girl raped speaks volumes. And then she gets run over. Her family has to hear that their daughter was raped and left as roadkill. Anyone, like the NAACP, that is standing up for any of these animals, should be ashamed of themselves.

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How?

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