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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:42 pm to
I think he was attempting to speak from their perspective. IOW, to them, she wasn't a person made in the image of God with a heart and soul. But just a thing to be used and discarded.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:46 pm to
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. The journalist spoke to the mom and grandmother. I bet it’s the mother saying she was pushed out and she was laying in the rain after being hit by the car. Neither are facts but I don’t think the writer was looking for them. It’s more of a story that has new quotes with no new information. They can call it an exclusive and get people fired up again. Nothing to see.


Just as bad as the misinfo in the article. Why do you think the mother would say that?
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:00 pm to
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I don’t recall reading that she was pushed. Up until now I thought it’s been that she voluntarily got out of the car.


Same. I wonder if indicative that they have footage from nearby camera? Perhaps it can be seen in video from boys' phones. Just from following other cases in the news, I know that prosecution usually holds on pretty tight to evidence and that the Defense always gets the first crack at the media tour. I'm sure there are tons of details to this story we don't know yet.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 5:04 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:03 pm to
Not at all. That’s what they thought of her.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:12 pm to
A grieving mother is going to think her daughter was forced out of the car into the freezing rain before she believes she got out freely and simply walked into traffic on her own. It paints a dramatic picture. No different than everyone who got the original story wrong her her being kidnapped at a bar from guys looking to target drunk girls. People believe what the want to believe. Every detail that sounds the worst, true or not, is what many pictures before video was released.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 5:14 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120084 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:01 pm to
Aren’t you related to the Caden kid?
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
205 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:17 pm to
I wonder what exactly do they know? It's a reason why the driver was charged with 1st and 3rd degree rape.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22025 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:20 pm to
Yeah, he should be treated as a principal because he assisted the others
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2884 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:36 pm to
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driver was charged with 1st and 3rd degree rape.


False. Charged with Principal (to 1st Degree Rape)

ETA: Not sure if the distinction means anything as far as his ultimate punishment but thats what he was charged with.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:39 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:39 pm to
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I understand one of the guys could have booked the Uber for her, but let's not kid ourselves. Does anybody believe they were decent enough to do such a thing?


Can’t this be easily verified in like 5 minutes?
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6474 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:45 pm to
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False. Charged with Principal (to 1st Degree Rape)


his initial charges were as principal...the grand jury actually charged him with 1st and 3rd degree rape...
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2884 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:51 pm to
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his initial charges were as principal...the grand jury actually charged him with 1st and 3rd degree rape...


I was going off of his jail booking info from 4 May 2023:

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(Principles)First Deg 14(24):42/A
THIRD DEGREE RAPE 14:43


LINK
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12658 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:52 pm to
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False.

You seem quite sure of that.

ETA: Ah I see. Interesting, looks like they charged him directly with 3rd degree but as principal to 1st degree?
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2884 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:54 pm to
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You seem quite sure of that.


See above. Im relaying the booking info from EBRSO 4 days ago. Is this info incorrect?
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2884 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:55 pm to
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ETA: Ah I see. Interesting, looks like they charged him directly with 3rd degree but as principal to 1st degree?


Correct.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12658 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:58 pm to
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See above. Im relaying the booking info from EBRSO 4 days ago. Is this info incorrect?

I don’t know why it would be. It’s odd though because WAFB ran an interview with Hillar outlining how someone could be charged with both first and third degree rape, and the article even went to the extent of pointing out that he was initially charged with principal to third degree rape, a lesser charge.

You’d think if they were interviewing Hillar, at some point someone would correct them. But idk.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6474 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:58 pm to
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Is this info incorrect?


this is from wafb after the indictment...i guess maybe they had it wrong...idk

LINK

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BATON ROUGE, La. (WAFB) - Casen Carver, 18, of Denham Springs, was indicted on Wednesday, May 3, in connection with the rape of LSU student Madison Brooks, according to court documents.

The indictment states Carver, who investigators said was in the driver’s seat of the car as other men had sex with the student in the backseat, has been officially charged with first-degree rape and third-degree rape.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87204 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:01 pm to
No
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1644 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:43 pm to
Finally some news. Indicted Washington for three rapes, including Madison Brooks. Only the uncle not yet indicted.
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
205 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:56 pm to
Noticed that he was charged with video voyeurism as well. I wonder if it's because the actual rape may have been caught on video by Kaivon?
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