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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:16 pm to
WAFB Facebook comments

Jasmine Shoales (Desmond Carter’s sister)

Bwa Shunda Lasha Carter (Desmond Carter’s Aunt)

This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:20 pm
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:19 pm to
WAFB updated their story and said NO kidnapping charges.

Upgrade was one count of 3rd degree rape and one count of 1st degree rape.

Plus, he's charged as an adult.

So the 17 y.o. is facing life for the 1st degree rape charge.

Link to WAFB:

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Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:20 pm to
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WAFB updated their story and said NO kidnapping charges.


I have been trying to tell you that they updated it ...haha
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:53 pm
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:36 pm to
Do you think he goes to trial or do you think he offers to plead to 3rd degree rape in exchange for dismissing the 1st degree rape charge? I don't think he'd want to gamble with being convicted of a 1st degree rape and doing life. 3rd degree is up to 25 years. If he pled to 3rd degree rape, it's unlikely he'd do the full 25 unless perhaps he got into further trouble while incarcerated.

Honestly, I suspect that if he did plead to 3rd degree rape, he'd do about 5 years, 10 at most. Being 17, he'd be 22-27 upon release. Still a young man. And he'd likely have to register as a sex offender. But that's a much better deal than life imprisonment and at 17, assuming he dies naturally, that could mean the next 60+ years.
Posted by inspectweld
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:40 pm to





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I’LL WHOOP ALL YALL THAT GOT SUM TO SAY about my brother yall believe anything the news say but one thing yall not go do is fw my brother “
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Sounds like she wants to go to jail to.

Maybe she can get up with her brothers attorneys and they can submit some of her threatening FB post to the DA to help prosecute herself.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:42 pm
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:38 pm to
Unless the prosecution has way more damning evidence that the public is unaware of, I don’t see how they can convict 1st degree rape.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:43 pm to
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You think the NAACP are trying to distance themselves from this, especially after the other defendant they went to bat for, Kaivon Washington, ended up being charged with 2 additional rapes?


Do we know that the NAACP did that for Washington? I remember seeing speculation on this. I don’t know that I saw anything firm.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:44 pm to
First degree Rape
quote:


...where the anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without lawful consent of the victim because it is committed under any one or more of the following circumstances:

            (5) When two or more offenders participated in the act.


So it's first degree under the law.

Remember two rapes - the 17 y.o. and then 18 y.o. (Washington).

First degree as an adult carries a life sentence.

I wonder which defendant is up next?

I expect it to be the 28 y.o.

Oh, did anyone spot Casen at the courthouse? The press? Curious if he 'flipped' and testified.


Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:45 pm to
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assume you're using a Tor browswer / hidden VPN etc. Post a 'burner email' and I'll get you on my Mystery Machine if you're interested. (No photos and nothing improper/illegal will ever be sent by me.) May be next week before I get to a 'secure location' but it'll come your way.


Can someone translate this for me?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:49 pm to
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Glad that dumbass defense attorney bloviated about this being consensual right at the outset. Ineffective assistance seems like an understatement now.


Haley represents Washington, not the juvenile, right?
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
205 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:50 pm to
I read an article that the NAACP was paying for Washington's lawyer. Perhaps I'm wrong on that.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:52 pm to

Washington had the phone making the video the defense lawyers handed over.

Madison - blurred out and go re-watch - was pulling up her pants as she exited the vehicle.

So we have this felony in the video the defense lawyers shared with the world.

They gave Nakamoto proof of a felony, which he then put in the news story.

quote:




            (3) Whoever commits the crime of video voyeurism when the observing, viewing, photographing, filming, or videotaping is of any vaginal or anal sexual intercourse, actual or simulated sexual intercourse, masturbation, any portion of the female breast below the top of the areola or of any portion of the pubic hair, anus, cleft of the buttocks, vulva, or genitals shall be fined not more than ten thousand dollars and be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than one year or more than five years, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.


TITLE 14 - Criminal Law
RS 14:283 - Video voyeurism; penalties








Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:54 pm to
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Not for a juvenile. Everything requires indictment to charge as adult.


I think this is right. And IIRC, you only have 30 days after arrest to seek it if the juvenile is in custody.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:58 pm to
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Why'd the start with the 17 y.o.?


There are some 30 day deadlines for charging juveniles. Orleans just blew the deadline in another high profile case.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:03 pm to
If you are in the area preparing a podcast or story, go to 1:19 of this story and look outside the front windshield.

This is NOT Pelican Lakes. Across the street is a wooden fence - one-story house neighborhood.

Any idea where this is? Trying to figure out how Madison got from there to where she was struck.

LINK
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:11 pm to
They got out after the sex and switched right?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:12 pm to
Knowing what you know about these cases, how do you see things progressing from here?

That the grand jury charged the 17 YO as an adult and 1st deg rape, what's the significance of that now?
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:17 pm to

They got out and switched (according to their story in the Affidavit) but this was getting out to let Madison exit, "Get out! Get out!"

I think that video may have been made in one place. Then she realized she didn't have a phone to Uber. So they let her back in the vehicle.

But that's why figuring out what's in that brief image matters.

More lies the perps tell = less believable when they say anything else.

That looks like a sideways street sign (speed limit?) as you see the truck drive by. The building across the street has a white top. I don't think anything within two miles down Burbank has that.

Again, how did Madison get to where she was killed?

The closer in time and location her drop off was to where she was run over = more likely it would be negligent homicide or even manslaughter. That's based on the 'legal eagle' commentary on here.



Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:34 am to
That looks like the front of Reggie’s and a white tent.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 1:11 am to

If it's Reggie's, they raped her around the corner (according to affidavit) and then brought her back to Reggie's?

My theory: they dump her out of the car. She looks and realize she has no phone. She waved them down, apologizes to Casen and she gets back in the vehicle. This was not the 'exit the vehicle - we drive off' video.

It was (and maybe I've been around too many sloppy drunks) the "dump out of vehicle when aggravated only to let them back in and the drunk babysitting continues" moment.

Judge,

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