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Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:34 pm to JudgeHolden
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Analytically, it’s possible she consented to one but not the other.
very possible
she might have considered the 17 year old cute and then Kaivon may have thought he had consent that he didn't
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:38 pm to clip11
I went to the scrimmage today and drove past Jennifer Jean on my way home and was very surprised to see a small street with houses very close together lining both sides. If I was going to commit a crime then that’s not the location I would choose. I also passed by her memorial on Burbank and was surprised at how much small it was. I was in a very bad accident at that exact spot last year and it was an eerie feeling driving by. Prayers for her family and hopefully the perpetrators are held accountable
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:42 pm to MarlboroTiger
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If I was going to commit a crime then that’s not the location
I think they probably pulled off on Ashley.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 9:21 pm to tigerskin
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They will bury Washington and say they assumed the 17 year old was consensual
How? The issue is that she was too drunk to consent. If she was lucid enough to consent to the 17 year old then the defense will say she was lucid enough to consent to Washington since they had sex with her back to back. It's not like Washington came back an hour later after she drank more.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 9:32 pm to clip11
I see your point but why did the driver tell Washington to stop and not the 17 year old?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 10:00 pm to notbilly
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Washington’s role in this is definitely worse than the others.
Why is Washington's role greater than the 17 year olds? I say they're both equally guilty.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 10:27 pm to clip11
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she was lucid enough to consent to the 17 year old then the defense will say she was lucid enough to consent to Washington
That could also mean she was lucid enough not to consent to Washington
We probably need video from inside the bar showing her giving attention to the 17 year old and to the exclusion of the other three. When girls are with a group like that, they pick.
And it lines up with what Washington did before
Posted on 2/5/23 at 10:34 pm to tigerskin
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I see your point but why did the driver tell Washington to stop and not the 17 year old?
It may have taken him that long to find some semblance of a conscience.
ETA: I can’t even imagine the level of fricked up-ness it would take to sit in the front seat while rapes were occurring in the back seat.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 10:39 pm to DVA Tailgater
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may have taken him that long to find some semblance of a conscience.
Or he was there the whole time with them and knew she liked the 17 year old and not Kaivon
Posted on 2/5/23 at 11:35 pm to tigerskin
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I see your point but why did the driver tell Washington to stop and not the 17 year old?
I think that had to do with the length of time they’d been sitting on that street.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 11:43 pm to JudgeHolden
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I think that had to do with the length of time they’d been sitting on that street.
or the possbility that washngton sexually assaulted her committing sodomy, he hurt her, she wasnt down for that and it got really bad in that car and carver had enough
Posted on 2/6/23 at 1:13 am to supatigah
This shows why they all need their own lawyer.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 2:57 am to chalmetteowl
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That could also mean she was lucid enough . . .
And it lines up with what Washington did before
So how did she go blank and find herself in the middle of Burbank @ 3AM in freezing cold?
Note: I added links to as much first hand info as I'm aware on p. 349. Will update with others as I can.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:19 am to AlwysATgr
They are all equally guilty. The two young men who penetrated the young woman, need to be held more accoutable than the other two; however, they all are GUILTY. The only reason the driver told them to stop, because he was probably mad he didnt get any.
They may be good kids, I dont know, but they all made a bad decision. This poor girls parents......
They may be good kids, I dont know, but they all made a bad decision. This poor girls parents......
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:45 am to tigerskin
What do you mean? And why did the 17 year old ask for consent 5 times? What were her responses the first 4 times? My hunch is that she was so incoherent that she didn't know what was being asked and the 5th time she may have said something that resembled an "ok" or "yes" and he went for it. The same with Washington. Supposedly he asked multiple times.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 6:49 am
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:52 am to pizota13
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This poor girls parents
I'm sure that prosecutors are prepping her parents and grandparents now that if this goes to trial, the defense is going to try to make their daughter look like a whore who wanted an anal gangbang with 2 guys she didn't know while 2 other guys she didn't know watched. In the backseat of a car. They're going to say that she was a coherent, willing participant in that.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:53 am to JudgeHolden
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I think that had to do with the length of time they’d been sitting on that street.
I do too.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:55 am to chalmetteowl
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Or he was there the whole time with them and knew she liked the 17 year old and not Kaivon
They're both equally guilty. Stop trying to make this 17 year old seem innocent since he's 17 rather than 18
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:11 am to Godfather1
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These people have an ingrained mindset that says it doesn’t matter whether he did it or not, is guilty or not; because of the injustices of the past, real or perceived, he’s entitled to not have to face any consequences for his actions. Being allowed to walk away scot-free is OWED to him.
Yep. In their minds, white guys are going around raping black women everyday. Not only that, the cops KNOW it's happening, but won't do anything because she's black. Now if you ask them to cite concrete examples, they won't be able to because no such thing is happening. Or they might dig up some case that happened in the 1940s almost 80 years ago.
So in their minds, why should these youths go down for raping a white girl when white guys get away with raping black women everyday?
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