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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:57 pm to ell_13
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:57 pm to ell_13
It said somewhere she told them she had a friend with parents in that neighborhood off Burbank and they drove around unable to find it.
There's a video on BAC 'glasses' they sell to show how messed up your perception is when drunk. So unlikely she'd find much of anything at .319.
They did argue, according to the affidavit. She asked to be let out.
The affidavit is their version - likely their 'make myself look good' version of events. Washington denied having sex with her but the forensic evidence and other witnesses contradicted that.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:57 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Maybe enough days have passed and this can be said without an emotional uproar… but this alone doesn’t constitute rape.
her BAC is .32 and having sex with someone in that state is rape.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:58 pm to JudgeHolden
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I need to go look at negligent homicide. That’s conceivably a charge here.
If it turns out to be true she didnt have her phone and they lied about the uber shite, leaving her in almost freezing temps and extremely intoxicated with no ability to help herself...how in the hell can they not be charged?
As mentioned many times, they raped her and dumped her like a stray dog. Thats my theory until proven wrong.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:59 pm to ell_13
The third degree law doesn't give a specific .08 level like a DWI does.
It says a "stupor."
BAC experts will argue back and forth on that and jurors will believe what they wanted to believe before they ever got on the jury.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:59 pm to JudgeHolden
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need to go look at negligent homicide. That’s conceivably a charge here.
I don’t think it is, I just find the suspects story highly hypocritical and pathetic.
“Ohhh yea we have to bring you home for your safety.”
Then a few minutes later let her out of the car on a dimly lit highway. They could have easily drove to somewhere more populated. I don’t care if they got in an argument, they don’t sound like they put up much of a fight to convince her.
It’s evidence their story is bullshite and they didn’t say yes to safely bring her home. They said yes because they thought they might have sex with her in the car.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:59 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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These fricks are lucky they aren’t on trial for murder too
I don’t know if they are out of the woods on negligent homicide.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:00 pm to ell_13
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Maybe enough days have passed and this can be said without an emotional uproar… but this alone doesn’t constitute rape.
And she could have a BAC of 0.0 and still be raped
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:00 pm to HodsonTiger13
Doesn’t the definition of “crime of violence” use a .20? Long time since I looked at it.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:01 pm to tigerskin
Absolutely.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:01 pm to financetiger
I feel like this thread has delved into this
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:01 pm to Beef Tips
I asked that early on and some legal eagle type said there had to be a 'nexus' from what they did and her death. Too distant in time and place.
But... you leave a 2 year old by I-10 chances are that kid gets run over. That negligent homicide?
Madison was left out there in the cold and rain with no phone. So I'd go for negligent homicide as well.
But... you leave a 2 year old by I-10 chances are that kid gets run over. That negligent homicide?
Madison was left out there in the cold and rain with no phone. So I'd go for negligent homicide as well.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:02 pm to HodsonTiger13
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The affidavit is their version - likely their 'make myself look good' version of events.
Slight emendation.
The affidavit is the detective’s version of their version.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:03 pm to HodsonTiger13
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They did argue, according to the affidavit. She asked to be let out.
You have to remember the context in which this statement was given. At the time, these dudes were trying to clear themselves of a potential negligent homicide charge (perps werent aware of the rape charges coming). Of course they are going to say she wanted to get out so we obliged.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:03 pm to tigerskin
Right. I think we can conclude the injuries were from that night. Her injuries are listed in the arrest warrants.
https://www.aol.com/madison-brooks-news-latest-suspects-045011541.html
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At the bond hearing, 19th Judicial District Judge Brad Myers said that he had watched a video filmed by one of the four suspects inside the car with Brooks. The judge said that the video shows the suspects “callously” laughing at the drunk 19-year-old woman as she slurred her words, reported local outlet WAFB. He also reviewed footage taken from Reggie’s Bar which showed Brooks falling over and struggling to stand in front of at least one of the suspects before they left the bar together. Her blood alcohol level was four times the legal limit at the time of her death and her autopsy shows injuries from a sexual assault, according to an arrest warrant. The judge concluded that – based on the two videos and statements made by Mr Carver to investigators – he said it was clear that a crime had occurred that fateful night.
https://www.aol.com/madison-brooks-news-latest-suspects-045011541.html
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:03 pm to JudgeHolden
An edited one at that. It won’t have every word spoken in the interview.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:05 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Madison was left out there in the cold and rain with no phone.
Is this true?
That would make even more sense why she “ran after them”. If she suddenly realizes she doesn’t have her phone she says oh shite there is no way I am getting home. I would probably run after that person too because I knew it was my only hope of getting home.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:06 pm to JudgeHolden
Yes, in 'crimes of violence' it does say that:
"(46) Vehicular homicide, when the operator's blood alcohol concentration exceeds 0.20 percent by weight based on grams of alcohol per one hundred cubic centimeters of blood."
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:06 pm to ell_13
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Do you think it’s possible she asked to be let out of the car or maybe there was an argument? Hell, if she realized what had happened to her was rape maybe she wanted to get away as fast as possible. All speculation of course. But then simply kicking her out isn’t the only probable scenario.
That’s the exact point the a brought up on Friday when the attorney’s made their statement. She asked for a ride to her sorority sister’s house, agreed to sex, all of the sudden wanted out of the vehicle to catch an Uber. They skipped over that and said she got out of the vehicle in good condition.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:06 pm to Beef Tips
quote:Carver’s statement comes across as someone who was told he didn’t do anything wrong and the investigators just wanted to know how she got there. I think he said pretty much everything as he remembered it. He’s pretty candid considering he implicated himself in a crime. Washington on the other hand lies and then requests a lawyer at a pretty critical moment of the interview. Tough to trust what he says.
these dudes were trying to clear themselves of a potential negligent homicide charge. Of course they are going to say she wanted to get out so we obliged.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:06 pm to HodsonTiger13
I don't recall seeing a coroner's toxicology report yet. We only know what the hospital lab reports are at this point (since the BAC was in the warrant). I guarantee they had a standard tox screen on her before they let the organs go. What about unknowns like the old bath salts?
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