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re: Dental student dies in ICU. Only MD present for hours was telehealth.

Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:18 pm to
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So we couldn’t spend money to help this?

With the current system? No. It'd be prohibitively expensive. Now with insurance reform and getting away from traditional residence and allow young doctors to apprentice under highly qualified physicians of their choosing we could. But it would rob the system of cheap labor while allowing the doctors training the new docs to profit from their labor. I could easily pay one double what they make as residents, train them better, make a nice profit to make it worth my while, and teach them the business and how to make money once they get out. I could also help them get in with better specialists to train them. Instead they are trained by DEI doctors, the ones that failed or never tried private practice, and lifetime academics that have never practice real world medicine or ran a business.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2209 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:18 pm to
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So we couldn’t spend money to help this?


The “throw more money” solution to a problem is often both short sighted and narrow minded.

The truth is because our medical systems are well funded, they often have to deal with inflated to outright gouging pricing. Pretending that underfunding is the problem doesn’t nothing to help with the solution.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3624 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:21 pm to
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It's the doctors keeping the numbers of students down through their lobbyists.


Correct to keep their wages high and in doing so hospitals decided to go find cheaper doctors in third world countries but it’s screwed the younger generation more
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27313 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:21 pm to
They’re all too busy marching at the No Kings rally and making TikToks about orange man bad.
Posted by Burt Macklin
Member since Apr 2019
161 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:24 pm to
Never believe the claims in these lawsuits - everything is exaggerated to make the hospital or doctor seem as negligent as possible. The lawyer will say anything to get the hospital to settle and avoid bad publicity. Newspapers love the clicks these claims get, but never report the results of the suits (which are mostly thrown out).
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37053 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:26 pm to
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How many American doctors could we find with $200B requested for this war?


Are you advocating for government doctors? Yeah, no thanks.

Also, funny how the government spend you focused on was for a war and not the $100 billion annually (low estimate) from Medicare/Medicaid fraud.

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I’m talking about giving our best and brightest medical doctor training for free. That seems like a good use of taxpayer money if we are having a shortage due to costs.


yes, because the government subsidizing things has never been tried before and NEVER leads to fraud, waste, or out of control prices What is it with progressives and their complete inability to think beyond their "great idea", and consider how the market will react or other downstream effects? It's actually pretty wild.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11978 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:26 pm to
Just a few years ago you couldn't ask a DR a question unless you were in his/her office. "I can't diagnose you over the phone or with a picture". Now it takes 6 months to get a DRs appt in office and they wanna see you on telehealth. Now days you have to have a concierge DR or just use the Urgent Care for everything.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:34 pm to
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The truth is because our medical systems are well funded, they often have to deal with inflated to outright gouging pricing. Pretending that underfunding is the problem doesn’t nothing to help with the solution.

Agree. Have to eliminate the bloat, price fixing and fraud.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37053 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:36 pm to
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Now days you have to have a concierge DR or just use the Urgent Care for everything.


Ask a Canadian or a Brit how they'd feel about being able to walk into an urgent care at any time, wait 15 minutes to see an NP or PA, get a diagnosis and Rx for 95% of health issues (and get information, a recommendation, or referral for most of the remaining 5%), and do so for maybe $50 out of pocket.

More govt involvement, spending, oversight, etc is never the answer and has been illustrated thousand of times, and we can see first hand how it destroys healthcare in other countries, but I guess it won't stop the left from continuing to advocate for it.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37053 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:40 pm to
This is also very odd because you have highly trained nurses checking on patients pretty much hourly in the ICU and they have the ability to manage much of the care, with the Dr coming by maybe a few times a day. So you would think the nurses would have noticed his decline.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4023 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:44 pm to
You were happy Xiden was doing this so pick whatever metaphor does it for you and do it.
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
1286 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:46 pm to
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You don't get it. It's the doctors keeping the numbers of students down through their lobbyists.


Some people still believe we have "free markets". As bad as believing Santa Claus at this point.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 1:50 pm to
“I would love for grandma to have a doctor that looks like her but that would mean I’d have to stop pretending to be a libertarian for a minute.”

Progressivism is importing a million people who hate you and then making you stand in line behind sex change surgery applicants when you have a heart attack. I’m talking about using our money to address labor shortages, to produce independent physicians who can tell the government and Oschner to kiss their arse while they provide health care for their own communities. But no, we can’t have that, because England has socialist medicine and Europeans are dumb!
Freedom fries and bombs, woohoo America!
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 1:51 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72130 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:29 pm to
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My mother had a telehealth neurology consult when she was in the ER for a seizure. It is what it is. You're not going to have a live neurologist on call at 11:00 at night in BFE Louisiana.


Yeah we are the highest rated hospital in palm beach county of all places and have telehealth in several service lines for varying amounts of time. ICU is wild as there are generally multiple levels of care from very good nurses with low ratios, hospitalists, AND intensivists and specialist.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92263 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:30 pm to
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He’ll never be long in the tooth.


his loss will create a huge cavity in the lives of his friends and loved ones
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25725 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:32 pm to
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He’ll never be long in the tooth.

Not his crown achievement
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92263 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:35 pm to
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Not his crown achievement


maybe this tragedy will cause us to get to the root of our problems with the health care industry
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
2005 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:37 pm to
Obama care at work,totally destroying health care as we’ve known it.The dumbing down of the healthcare of the USA is atrocious.Unfortunatly congress and those who voted for this abortion of a president ,OBAMA,deserve what they are getting.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26797 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
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No. It'd be prohibitively expensive. Now with insurance reform


What do you believe that insurance reform will accomplish?

Can you describe the reform?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25725 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:44 pm to
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maybe this tragedy will cause us to get to the root of our problems with the health care industry

We can’t cross that bridge
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