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re: Delta flight dumps jet fuel on school playground
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:51 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:51 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Ever wondered how fuel cells work? Break down water into hydrogen and oxygen, and it becomes flammable.
You didn't light water on fire though.
You chemically altered it in a manner that is not the same as "lighting it on fire"
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:53 pm
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:53 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Yeah all that post needed was a connection between Delta's diversity hiring practices and their fuel dumping policies.
That is a stupid comment.
Go ahead and get yourself a doctor from the obvious lower reaches of his class, its all good.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:55 pm to fightin tigers
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You didn't light water on fire though.
You chemically altered it in a manner that is not the same as "lighting it on fire"
Would you agree that at 1 atmosphere both liquid water and loquid jet fuel are similarly flammable?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Would you agree that at 1 atmosphere both liquid water and loquid jet fuel are similarly flammable?
I would not.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:56 pm to upgrayedd
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Jet fuel isn't highly flammable
Not like gasoline.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Would you agree that at 1 atmosphere both liquid water and loquid jet fuel are similarly flammable?
Ambient temperature?
Sure.
Probably say combustible. I mean, we walk the edge on combustible/flammable for this purpose.
When I am headed towards the ground I would be concerned about the flammability and not the safety factor built in.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:59 pm to yankeeundercover
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Why the frick is an airplane “dumping fuel”?!? Go frick yourselves, air industry. And wonder why the price of a plane ticket has gone up exponentially... it’s because apparently they’re throwing away the fricking fuel we as customers are paying for.
fricking dumb.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:04 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Probably say combustible. I mean, we walk the edge on combustible/flammable for this purpose.
When I am headed towards the ground I would be concerned about the flammability and not the safety factor built in.
My point is that obviously jet fuel is combustible given the right conditions. However its not as readily flammable as many people think.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:09 pm to NYNolaguy1
Close enough that I wouldn't smoke around it. More flammable than diesel, less than gasoline.
I would think the surfaces that reach 100 degrees in a crash would provide enough of a launchpad if given a source.
I would think the surfaces that reach 100 degrees in a crash would provide enough of a launchpad if given a source.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:14 pm to fightin tigers
How different is jet A from regular kerosene aside from quality?
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
dumping the fuel was required to get down to the landing weight allowed by the design,,,,according to the linked article which described the plane losing an engine operation not long after takeoff
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:29 pm to Tempratt
jet fuel is primarily a blend of kerosene and diesel with additives to make sure there is no free water present that was freeze at normal flying altitudes where the temperature may be 20 degrees below zero.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:31 pm to bad93ex
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Maybe one of the OT pilots can chime in as to why an aircraft would need to perform a fuel dump in an emergency situation?
Many planes can't land safely at the weight they takeoff
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:44 pm to Trevaylin
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jet fuel is primarily a blend of kerosene and diesel with additives to make sure there is no free water present that was freeze at normal flying altitudes where the temperature may be 20 degrees below zero
Pretty much. Water limits vary depending on domestic or international.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:quote:
Ok. Burn water.
Ever wondered how fuel cells work? Break down water into hydrogen and oxygen, and it becomes flammable.
Like I said, with enough pressure, fuel, and oxygen, anything burns.
So, turn the water into something else, then burn that. In this case, turn the water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burn the hydrogen. Got it.
Interestingly enough, burning is just oxidation, so when you burn the hydrogen you spent energy to get from the water, you get... water.
ETA: I'm not really this interested. I'm just busting balls.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:04 pm to TigerstuckinMS
I’m a pilot
I once siphoned jet fuel out of my airplane into my zippo so I could light a cigarette
Didn’t work.
Jet fuel isn’t flammable.
The end
I once siphoned jet fuel out of my airplane into my zippo so I could light a cigarette
Didn’t work.
Jet fuel isn’t flammable.
The end
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:08 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:Oh I dont know maybe to prevent a huge bomb jet fuel fire upon crashing?
Why the frick is an airplane “dumping fuel”?!?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Many planes can't land safely at the weight they takeoff
The reasonable answer that should be on the first page
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:19 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Jet fuel isn’t flammable.
What role in making a jet engine function do you suppose jet fuel plays?
Here’s a hint.
What do you suppose caused this jet to explode on impact? Keep in mind this crash took place moments after impact when the jet’s fuel tank are full.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I once siphoned jet fuel out of my airplane into my zippo so I could light a cigarette
Didn’t work.
Jet fuel isn’t flammable.
I mean, kerosene lamps are not a new invention.
That demostrates the beauty of kerosene's flammability.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 9:25 pm
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