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re: Delta bans pit bulls as service dogs due to safety concerns

Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:19 pm to
It just pisses me off that we have so many “emotionally unstable” people in this country. Good lord we have such an insane amount of weak minded people in this country.

If I see somebody with a service dog that’s not blind or otherwise incapacitated in any way, I automatically want to slap the shite out of them and tell them to grow the frick up.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8798 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:28 pm to
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Maybe if you beat your chest a little more people will think you know what you're talking about.


Pit bulls are a dangerous breed. They weren't bred for companionship, they were bred to fight and kill. Obviously I don't live next door to your chain link fence, but if I did I would be launching rat poison meatballs in that direction. My family > your dangerous dogs. im not in the minority here.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:28 pm to
Last flight I took, we are waiting to takeoff, and two early thirties millennials walk on the plane, each with large service dogs. Neither person had outwardly visible special needs.

What gives with this? Is this for anxiety or something?

If it is, I don’t see how bringing a dog on a plane relieves anyone’s anxiety. That would stress me out.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:57 pm to
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Pit bulls are a dangerous breed.


Let's unpack the word "dangerous" a little more. Are they more dangerous when they attack? Obviously. Of course a big, strong dog is dangerous when it attacks. The point I'm making is that it is extremely uncommon. The reaction evoked by the word "pit bull" is way out of proportion to the danger.

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Obviously I don't live next door to your chain link fence, but if I did I would be launching rat poison meatballs in that direction


You sound like a thoughtful, mentally stable person. I haven't even spoken of my dogs in this thread but you're so upset and uninformed that you decided to make it personal. That's sad.

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My family > your dangerous dogs.


I don't have a dangerous dog.

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im not in the minority here.


Average people rarely are.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64177 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:03 pm to
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But the fact that people do this is ridiculous. And airlines are basically helpless because of how social media can vilify them unjustly.


I’d actually heavily support any airline who had the balls just to tell these people to frick off.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:31 pm to
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Let's unpack the word "dangerous" a little more. Are they more dangerous when they attack? Obviously. Of course a big, strong dog is dangerous when it attacks. The point I'm making is that it is extremely uncommon.


Let’s take about the domesticated dog as a species or whatever the hell the categorization is.

How did it come to be?
How did we end up with various breeds so distinct from one another in appearance and temperament?
More specifically, how did the various breeds known colloquially as “pit bulls” come to be? What characteristics were breeders going for when the breed came into being?
What are they so often bred for now?

You answer those questions and you’ve answered why I don’t want pit bulls anywhere near me or mine.
I don’t think they’re evil. I think they have traits that make them dangerous in comparison with having no dog around or with having a breed that wasn’t bred for the same reasons and characteristics as the pit bull.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:36 pm to
That’s fine, but the underlying theory you’re operating on just isn’t borne out by the data.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
19916 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:45 pm to
Off the pit bull topic, I was in a restaurant last week and some guy had a Lemur for a service animal. The guy had no visible disability. I asked the waitress about it and she didn't even know it was a Lemur. I had to explain to her the irony of having a Lemur as a service animal (Lemurs require a lot of care).
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112311 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:54 pm to
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If I see somebody with a service dog that’s not blind or otherwise incapacitated in any way, I automatically want to slap the shite out of them and tell them to grow the frick up.


But you don’t. You mumble under your breathe and post on here about it


Whose really weak minded?
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
105893 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 10:55 pm to
I’ve said this before. Only mini horses and dogs are able to be classified as service animals.

The lemur was an emotional support animal.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
19916 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:23 pm to
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The lemur was an emotional support animal


It was. I said service animal, but it was an emotional support animal. I still found it just as ridiculous.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:05 am to
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But you don’t. You mumble under your breathe and post on here about it Whose really weak minded?


Well let’s see, is something like that worth going to jail over for assault or battery? Most here would say no.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12720 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:43 am to
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But you don’t. You mumble under your breathe and post on here about it

Whose really weak minded?


This will be the dumbest thing I see this month. I legitimately thought I hope this person can’t breed as my first thought.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61628 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:56 am to
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it's a mess for sure


Its why that box of shite should have never been open. When we flew to Colarodo a few weeks ago, we had a lady with a dog it a bag in front of us in line. She ended up sitting behind us and the thing stunk to high heavens. Should have never been on that plane.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58862 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:04 am to
This country truly is becoming one enormous queefing vagina

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30084 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:07 am to
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I love when conservatives support unconstitutionally vague ordinances. "But AR doesn't even mean assault rifle!" 



There's a constitutional right to own a pit bull? Who knew?

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66784 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:17 am to
what i would like to start seeing is Dog Parks that are Pit free.


There's a huge dog park full of trees and a big arse filtered dog swimming pond a couple of miles from our neighborhood. Unfortunately, it's next to a ghetto, so I can't take my full bred dog there due to her constantly being chased by trashy pits.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10123 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:01 pm to
good. flying is stressful enough for a lot of people and even more so when traveling with a pet and hoping it is being taken care of properly by the airline.

the last thing one wants to worry about is a pit bull attacking you, your pet, or someone else.
Posted by Camaro
Member since Jul 2015
45 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:35 pm to
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ok, whether we agree or disagree with the ban, they have every right to do it. Not sure where the unconstitutionality it comes from


They do not have the right to do it. The U.S. Department of Transportation issued a statement on Friday saying: “A limitation based exclusively on breed of the service animal is not allowed under the Department’s Air Carrier Access Act regulation.”

A few important things that are often mistaken. The ADA of 1990 does not apply to commercial air travel. The Air Carrier Access Act of 1986 is the federal law that does apply, it is regulated by the DoT. Under the current ACAA regulations emotional support animals by definition are service animals. The regulations also require that all service animals (ESAs included) must be trained to behave appropriately in public settings. They also allow airlines to require 48 hours advance notice and specific documentation from a treating licensed mental health professional for Psychiatric Service Dogs (as defined by the ADA) and ESAs.
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