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Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 1:27 pm to
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LSU no longer requires two years of ROTC for freshman and sophomore male students, and LSU has gone hard left insofar as maintaining a patriotic spirit among its student body.


100% agree, don't know if this is accurate or not but not too long after LSU dropped the requirement came the end of the Vietnam war, shortly followed by Jimmy Carter being elected and huge RIFing of the military, I was at LSU during that time and war, ROTC, and the military were not very popular things
Posted by Sack531
Member since Jul 2019
534 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 1:34 pm to
Texas A3M has a maritime academy that offers scholarships for commitment to service upon graduation, which helps increase the numbers substantially.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8842 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I was at LSU during that time...


Dad was the cadet colonel (Corps Commander) for LSU's ROTC his senior year in 1954. Troy Middleton was president of the university and LSU was the bright and shining star of the 4th Army District with Texas A&M not far behind at all. The two universities set the standard for producing quality military officers among institutions that were not US Military Academies. The decline was precipitous at LSU when it was no longer a part of the required curriculum. LBJ's little war destroyed a lot of the American spirit at innumerable institutions all around the country.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14427 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:05 pm to
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West Point


Doubtful for numerous reasons.

Remember West Point is a big name. Young soliders leave the military when their term is up to pursue the money.

Anyone that has West Point on their resume will at minimum get a look.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
2455 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Citadel Military College of South Carolina

Crazy you can commission and still be illiterate.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
2455 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8842 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:13 pm to
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i didn't know that LSU had such a strong military background.


LSU's Corps of Cadets in 1954 was larger than the entire student body at West Point. Of course, it consisted of both and Army branch and an Air Force branch. In odd-numbered years the highest ranking officer of the Army branch would be appointed Corps Commander, and in even-numbered years the Air Force branch would appoint the Corps Commander.

1954 was an outlier, and due to the size of the cadet corps, the three diamonds signifying Cadet Colonel were insufficient to cover the rank, so a fourth diamond adorned the Corps Commander's uniform. Dad was the first student to wear the four diamonds and was asked whether he was comfortable with the designation of Cadet General. His response was that such a name sounded ridiculous since the rank of general should never even be associated with a matriculating cadet. He and President Middleton, along with the Commandant of Cadets (whose name escapes me at the moment) decided upon the rank being designated as "Senior Cadet Colonel." In theory, that fourth diamond indicated that he outranked the Corps Commander of the US Military Academy. (Of course, we all know that would be an absurdity.)

Dad was one of five individuals to graduate from a non-military institution and receive a regular commission rather than a reserve commission. It was unfortunate that he had detached his retina the previous year and was declared 4F when he went for his physical to report for commissioning and assignment.

Sorry for the long response to your comment. I'm kinda proud of my dad and LSU. He was a wonderful father and his guidance and influence made me want nothing more than to graduate from my high school in Kentucky and attend LSU to be just like him. I wound up with my degree from LSU, but I know I'll still never be the man he was.

eta: While all LSU grad's absolutely loathe Ole Miss, Dad always considered Texas A&M to be LSU's greatest rival due to the military traditions of each school and the strong rivalry between the cadet corps of each university. That rubbed off a little bit on me. I always look forward to the game between our two schools each season.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6981 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:18 pm to
very cool
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:54 pm to
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As a former Army Officer, I can tell you that every one of the A&M officers that I served with were certifiably weird, every last one of them. Some were good officers, but weird. They have all have some sort of socialization issue,


I was going to ask if being high on the list was something to be proud of.

Thanks for confirming it isn't.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1953 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:01 pm to
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i didnt know that LSU had such a strong military background. really cool.

Did you not know that LSU has been referred to as the Old War Skule for being founded in 1860 as a military academy with William Tecumseh Sherman as its first superintendent?

Here are a couple of LSU cadets you may have heard about:

John A. Lejeune, January 10, 1867 – November 20, 1942) was a United States Marine Corps lieutenant general and the 13th Commandant of the Marine Corps. Lejeune served for nearly 40 years in the military, and commanded the U.S. Army's 2nd Division during World War I. After his retirement from the Marine Corps he became superintendent of the Virginia Military Institute.

Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina was named in his honor during World War II.

He is credited as the father of the modern Marine Corps and his letter to the Corps is read every year on November 10, the date the Corps was established.

Claire Lee Chennault, (September 6, 1893 – July 27, 1958)[2] was an American military aviator best known for his leadership of the "Flying Tigers" and the Chinese Nationalist Air Force in World War II.

Chennault was a fierce advocate of "pursuit" or fighter-interceptor aircraft during the 1930s when the United States Army Air Corps was focused primarily on high-altitude bombardment. Chennault retired from the United States Army in 1937, and went to work as an aviation adviser and trainer in China.

Starting in early 1941, Chennault commanded the 1st American Volunteer Group (nicknamed Flying Tigers). He headed both the volunteer group and the uniformed U.S. Army Air Forces units that replaced it in 1942. He feuded constantly with General Joseph Stilwell, the U.S. Army commander in China, and helped China's Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek to convince President Roosevelt to remove Stilwell in 1944. The China-Burma-India theater was strategically essential in order to fix many vital elements of the Imperial Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland to limit their use against Allied forces advancing towards Japan in the two Pacific campaigns.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8584 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:08 pm to
as a transfer student sophomore , I was required to take 2 semesters of rotc in 1967 at LSU

positives.....easy A, helped gpa
I lived south stadium easy access to parade ground
taught how to shoot the bolt action 22 rifle dad gave at age 11
First and lasting mgmt concept that a competent field leader can manage 8-11 men. and organization pyramids on that number

negatives,,,,,wasted to much time polishing shoes/brass
learned how to hum loudly in parade
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10560 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:17 pm to
It always thought it would be cool if LSU put money into the ROTC and grew it again and to see LSU's ROTC dressed out for LSU games the way A&M and Auburn do.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8842 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:30 pm to
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Claire Lee Chennault

I wish I could give you a thousand-thousand upvotes for this. Gen Claire Lee Chennault has always been my favorite of the generals of WWII. I spent many a free evening at LSU going to the Hill Memorial Library and wearing those white cotton gloves so I could handle and read through his personal memoires. (It took me probably a dozen visits to convince the people at the front desk that yes, his handwritten memoires were indeed in their possession and were available for students and researchers to review. Eventually they got tired of fighting about it with me so they searched their records and let me spend some time with them to get me to shut up.)
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44338 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 4:31 pm to
Every A&M officer I've met in the Army has been retarded
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6981 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:11 pm to
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I was going to ask if being high on the list was something to be proud of. Thanks for confirming it isn't.

Hey, frick yourself!
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
13896 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:46 pm to
Didn’t realize Auburn had such a good program. Little disappointed in LSU. We have a strong military legacy that needs to be fostered..
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1621 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:20 pm to
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Doubtful for numerous reasons. Remember West Point is a big name. Young soliders leave the military when their term is up to pursue the money. Anyone that has West Point on their resume will at minimum get a look.


West Point is the correct answer but it's also a self fulfilling prophecy due to law of avg's as each class commissions a 1000 officers a year. My understanding is traditionally 1/3 of each class stays in for a full career and retires at LTC or above. My class currently has around 15 GOs.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:44 pm to
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LSU 25.9

I was a hare’s breath away from being part of this number. I’m old enough now to have regrets in life and not serving is one of the big ones.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92519 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:16 pm to
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LSU 25.9


Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
6729 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:21 pm to
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that's everyone from there, not just military officers


There’s a split between students who go there for a certain degree and the cult members. When I lived in Dallas a lot of my friends went to A&M and they weren’t into all of the “tradition”. I will add they were in the minority.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 9:23 pm
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