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re: Defeat the Nurse Practitioner scope of practice expansion - Louisiana SB 187

Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:52 am to
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:52 am to
Pharmacy school is very very hard. It is not equivalent/identical subject matter to medical school. Pharmacists study pharmacy. Not medicine. Pharmacists should not be primary care doctors. Nobody but a medical doctor should be a medical doctor. Go to the school for which you aim to work. Pharmacy is spectacular but it's not primary care. Nursing is great but it's nursing. Until you've lived thru at least an internship and witnessed a huge spectrum of pathology up to and including death you should not be autonomously practicing medicine on patients due to safety issues
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 2:03 am
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:55 am to
I just group you guys all into the medical field. Nurse practitioner, dentist, pharmacist, doctor, etc. All the same..










J/k
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:00 am to
Have nothing at all against pharmacy whatsoever but how do you equate that with medical school? Medical school involved scrubbing in on colon resection surgeries and corralling schizophrenic patients in the psych crisis unit and catching syphillis babies at 5 am and witnessing crash c sections and helping intubate patients in the OR and draining gluteal abscesses in the ED and learning how to test for fetal heart tones, how to get a placenta out of a uterus safely, how to examine a pediatric patient in clinic, looking at chest X-rays, scrubbing in emergent chest surgeries, taking to patients who hallucinate and counseling them. You are not aware of what you're talking about. Pharmacy is wonderful and certainly challenging and extraordinarily necessary in society but not the same thing as medical school. They have purposeful differences
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:03 am to
Well I trust you on that. That is a lot of shite too know no wonder you guys are in school for like 13 years.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:06 am to
And helping take necrotic limbs off people. Fixing giant wound vacs covering one third of a one hundred pound thigh which has a foot wide hole in it. Y'all all go home and stop spouting nonsense till you've studied for a decade and know of what u speak
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118252 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:09 am to
And who might you be so wise in the ways of science?
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:09 am to
It takes a special breed to be in the medical field I just never thought of becoming a doctor. shite sounds like it's pretty easy to do. Well frick lost another one, TOD 1230 am, hot nurse time for my sponge bath. Doc you guys got it good.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:11 am to
BR impress this doc with your golf talk. I bet he couldn't carry your golf bag on the course.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:21 am to
Maybe people don't want to deal with pretentious doctors......
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:29 am to
That's fine. They still have the option of well supervised, well trained mid-levels.

Not passing this bill doesn't change that. But passing it opens Pandora's box. Just a warning. It probably won't affect hardly anything for the most part. I just hope people realize that big hospital groups are pushing this so they can replace docs with cheaper labor, but your prices won't be going down. Which stands to benefit me. I'm good either way. Just giving an educated opinion on the matter.
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9484 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

my mother is probably the exception the rule


You could have ended your statement there. Grad school is ridiculously easy to get into and for every 1 good NP, there are probably 5 that needed 3 times to pass their boards.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:16 pm to
And then the independent midwife part... How is this possibly being considered? Cannot imagine how that's a safe/good idea with something as precarious a childbirth

Any updates on the status of 187?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79998 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

How is this possibly being considered?


A group is donating to politicians of mediocre intellect. Or, they're just greedy pos's.
Posted by CoolKat
Member since Apr 2016
458 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:53 pm to
It's currently on the House Health and Welfare committee docket. Please contact your house rep to answer questions and urge a NO vote. Had a couple of amendments in Senate prior to passage. It's still a disgrace and insult to physicians, and an unsafe proposition for patients.
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 12:28 am to
The level of utter ignorance in this thread is making my eyes bleed.
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:18 pm to
that sounds troubling the eye bleeding
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:21 pm to
Actually all of this is most troubling
Posted by LATigerdoc
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since May 2014
933 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 11:48 am to
They're at it again.... Np bill to be voted on this Tuesday and the PT bill will be voted on this Wednesday. Call your state senator/state rep to oppose these bills, and to protect patient care/safety and the practice of medicine in Louisiana.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24410 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 11:59 am to
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protect


PT direct access is available in the majority of states already and approved by Branches of the is armed forces. There is no evidence to show that patients are at any higher risk. However, there is evidence that Direct access to PT improves health costs.


Ite not a scope change. PTs only want to do PT. We are well trained at recognizing red flags that would indicate issues that would not respond well to PT.





This post was edited on 5/7/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26333 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 12:23 pm to
frick off doc. You know damn well it's all about competition to your clinic. These NP's tend to be more involved with their patience and not running a stop watch to regulate their time with them. Most doctors are so old school they do not even practice the latest medicines designed to counter today's illnesses and problems.
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