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re: Deepwater Horizon - question about the cement

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Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:12 am to
Wow. So many safety devices that failed, along with human error. It blows my mind that this happened.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40428 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:44 am to
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Wow. So many safety devices that failed, along with human error. It blows my mind that this happened.




Things go wrong on these operations all the time which are out of your control. It's an immensely complex operation with a lot of people playing their own part. The worst problems though almost always involve human error. It only takes one screw up and your career in this industry is finished.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:25 am to
Rut roe
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6902 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:16 am to
Will someone ever go back and tap in to that well?
Posted by Big Saint
Houston
Member since May 2009
1463 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:55 am to
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Will someone ever go back and tap in to that well?


LLOG has been drilling in the macondo field for years now so yes.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10944 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:55 am to
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Shoulda used flex seal on dat, baw.




Cajun Navy Edition
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49972 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:58 am to
Couldn't shear the tool joints

ETA: I was at LSU in PETE when this shite happened. A guy came in and gave a PowerPoint presentation on the Junk Shot method they attempted to seal the well. It was basically 400 slides of wacky shite they were pumping downhole and it was hilarious
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179616 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:12 am to
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and it was hilarious



Yea tragedies like this are a hoot
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49972 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:27 am to
I kno rite
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12449 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:33 am to
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Engineer

Thank you good sir.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24578 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:33 am to
If you want honest answers from rig people, first you have to compliment their F250 and maybe say something nice about their truck nuts. Then they'll speak openly and freely.

You have to finesse them here. It's not like we're talking about normal people. The answer to any questions at first are just insults. Once you can get through that line of defense, you're home free.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:33 am to
Think of drilling a hole in a piece of wood (like into a block, not through and through). You then pull the drill bit out. You pick up a straw and stick it in the hole you just drilled. You take some glue and "pump" it down the straw. It will come out the bottom, then up the area between the straw and hole in the wood. If you pump some water behind the glue you can time it to where the glue is out of the inside of the straw at the same time you fill the area between the straw and hole. You then let it sit and dry. The straw is now glued into the hole. The straw is the metal casing (big pipe), the glue is the cement.

It's obviously much more complicated, but that's basically it. Think of layers of rock with different fluids inside (the rock is porous) and each layer may have a different pressure. The pipe stops the pressure from coming into the well bore. The cement will stop the pressure from jumping from one layer to another.

Due to depth of the hole, temperature, well bore fluid properties, centralization of the casing inside the hole, etc., pumping the cement takes a lot of analysis. They adjust the properties of the cement slurry. This isn't your driveway type stuff. If the pipe isn't centralized, there might be large voids where cement didn't get behind pipe. Happens all the time. A cement bond log is just a sensor that scans the casing and can confirm that cement got everywhere it needed to. If it didn't, they can shoot holes in the pipe and squeeze in cement to spots they missed. Again, stuff like this happens. It should not have caused a blowout. Ignoring it along with MANY other things led to that. Even though they didn't do the bond log on the DWH, there were other signs. They had tanks on the rig filling up with well bore fluid. Which means the well was slowly flowing back. I've seen the graphs. They ignored the alarms because they were offloading the same fluid and just assumed tank levels were all messed up due to that. But in reality, it was easy to see. Once that heavy well bore mud is out, there's nothing to hold back the formation pressure and boom, our have a blowout. When your blow out preventer doesn't work, you're toast.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35501 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:36 am to
Engineer's explanation left the first ten responders scratching their truck nuts...and looking DUM PDQ.

Lmao.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65196 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:37 am to
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Couldn't shear the tool joints

ETA: I was at LSU in PETE when this shite happened. A guy came in and gave a PowerPoint presentation on the Junk Shot method they attempted to seal the well. It was basically 400 slides of wacky shite they were pumping downhole and it was hilarious



My dad worked for Wild Well Control (BTI actually) and they were attempting to drop the dome over the wellhead.



problem was getting it in place over the wellhead which was difficult.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91347 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:38 am to
Yeah of course the movie is going to blame big bad BP, but reality is many average folks made errors that led to the blowout.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27814 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:43 am to
The movie was very Hollywooded up.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52509 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:45 am to
quote:

My dad worked for Wild Well Control (BTI actually) and they were attempting to drop the dome over the wellhead.

A friend of mine was also with Wild Well at the time and was on the Macondo response team
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91347 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:57 am to
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The movie was very Hollywooded up.




Yeah, and I knew it would be going into it so it didn't bother me. I've got friends that hate how it was portrayed and others that enjoyed it. I've found that the more stereotypical oilfield "baw" you are, the more you hated it, almost like you're required to do so. My biggest complaint was the portrayal of the woman who wanted to engage the BOP but was being held back by the man. In reality she just failed to do her job.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65196 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:57 am to
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A friend of mine was also with Wild Well at the time and was on the Macondo response team


those guys are true heroes that going and shut off well fires.
Gotta have some big balls.

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