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re: Dedicated passenger train from Baton Rouge to New Orleans "3-5 years away"
Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:42 pm to doubleb
Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:42 pm to doubleb
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So we do good on weekend nights.
Don't forget Thursdays
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They can do that now and ride the bus.
Busses are stuck on the same clogged roads that clog cars. People have tried taking shuttles to LSU games from downtown and its always miserable due to the fact that they're stuck in traffic same as they would be driving. Trains don't have this problem because they don't share the road with cars.
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Very few students can afford to live downtown. Some do, but not that many.
Downtown will continue to get more and more affordable as more housing units are built. Hundreds of new units will become available over the next 2 years.
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Not in the next decade.
True, but maybe in the one after that. Remember, we are dealing with our idiot government. Nothing good ever comes quickly.
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Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:51 pm to fightin tigers
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The rail project will never return the $250MM that is invested, yet no road project is held to the same standard.
Interstates use federal dollars and are critical to commerce and transportation.
Monorail from BR to NOLA...not so much.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:55 pm to Solo
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Interstates use federal dollars and are critical to commerce and transportation.
Monorail from BR to NOLA...not so much.
Will be funded primarily with federal money utilizing private tracks already in existence. It will also be a great resource during hurricane evacuations to quickly get large amounts of people who can't drive out of the cities when the interstates become completely jammed.
I don't think there is any way to say that this wouldn't be a great thing if it didn't cost anything to build. It would be a wonderful resource, but the question always comes back to "is it worth it?"
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:07 pm to WeeWee
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Read the articles on it. There was an article last year that had the number in the thousands. The train also stops in Gonzalez and the OLOL or MOL area of BR to pickup commuters there. BR drivers spend 42 hours/yr in traffic so there is the need for a commuter train.
The article said maybe 40k commute between the two cities.
Is the train going to bring them to their place of work, or do they need to work within a very short walking distance of this rail track?
I traveled from BR to NO for a year and a half every day. WHy would i get in my car and drive to this train station in BR, then get dropped off in N.O. and have to take a taxi or bus to my office?
I don't see how a train ride for a daily commuter is faster or cheaper, unless you can literally walk to and from the train stops. I can drive this route for $15/day. Is this train/bus/taxi ride going to be less than that? I get there in less than 70 minutes. This commute by train/bus/taxi sounds like minimum 2 hours, surrounded by people i don't want to be around.
Baton Rouge doesn't have the downtown life or enough people living in it for this to be even remotely feasible. No one is going to drive to a train station.
Just another stupid arse idea that some politician will somehow benefit from, just like the stupid arse bridge in St. Francisville.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:10 pm to brodeo
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It will also be a great resource during hurricane evacuations to quickly get large amounts of people who can't drive out of the cities when the interstates become completely jammed.
If you do this, they will expect you to feed and house them too, for free.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:30 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Is the train going to bring them to their place of work, or do they need to work within a very short walking distance of this rail track?
New Orleans has light rail extending all over the city from where the proposed station will be.
Baton Rouge is adding light rail in Mid City and from downtown to LSU. This train station will be the central hub. There is also the CATS busses running right past this station. You should have no trouble getting to the main places where people work, i.e. OLOL, LSU, and downtown.
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I don't see how a train ride for a daily commuter is faster or cheaper, unless you can literally walk to and from the train stops. I can drive this route for $15/day. Is this train/bus/taxi ride going to be less than that? I get there in less than 70 minutes. This commute by train/bus/taxi sounds like minimum 2 hours, surrounded by people i don't want to be around.
You can get from NOLA to BR in 70 minutes during peak traffic? I can't even do that with no traffic.
This thing is going to take 90 minutes with 7 stops (Mid City BR, OLOL, Gonzales, LaPlace, MSY, Zephyr, and NOLA CBD). You would avoid all of that headache at the 10/110 split, Nicholson traffic, 10/12 split, spillway traffic, Metairie traffic, paying for parking in the CBD, paying for parking in downtown BR, finding parking near LSU, ect.
You skip the traffic nightmare.
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Baton Rouge doesn't have the downtown life or enough people living in it for this to be even remotely feasible. No one is going to drive to a train station.
Just another stupid arse idea that some politician will somehow benefit from, just like the stupid arse bridge in St. Francisville.
This certainly was the case 5 years ago, but won't be 5 years from now. Downtown BR is in the midst of a massive residential building boom. With IBM and the new Mathernes, hotels, and the hundreds of apartments and condos opening up in the next 2 years, it may soon have that kind of density. There are also several new multi-story residential buildings going up adjacent to the station, including the restoration of the old entergy building itself.
Remember, this project isn't happening in a vacuum.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:33 pm to SouthOfSouth
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LSU football
The true reason ANYTHING gets built in this damn city..
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:38 pm to brodeo
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Downtown BR is in the midst of a massive residential building boom.
LOL
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Is the train going to bring them to their place of work, or do they need to work within a very short walking distance of this rail track?
The train stops on the edge of the CBD. The streetcar will take you wherever or catch one of the free shuttles that a lot of buildings provide.
You aren't driving from BR to NOLA for $15/day. Maybe for $15 in gas.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:45 pm to brodeo
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You should have no trouble getting to the main places where people work, i.e. OLOL, LSU, and downtown.
I don't live where i work. How do i get to the trainstation? Am I to go out in the morning with my kids and wait for the bus?
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You can get from NOLA to BR in 70 minutes during peak traffic? I can't even do that with no traffic.
Will since i don't live in Zachary as you somehow implied, yes, it takes me 70 minutes to get from Essen to the Huey P. There isn't this traffic nightmare leaving BR at 6 in the morning, nor are there idiots stopping to look at water on the spillway, and there's just some short wait time between Williams and Veterens in N.O.
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This thing is going to take 90 minutes with 7 stops
I don't believe that for one second. Dowtown BR to dowtown N.O. is around 80 miles. Is this train going to be traveling at speeds in excess of 100mph? There are regulations that only allow for trains to go 10mph over the Bonnet Carre, which is 10 miles long.
Besides that load of crap, even if it did take 90 minutes, how long will it take for me to catch the bus by my house, then catch a bus in N.O. to get to my office?
This train trip will take twice as long, and cost the same if not more as driving.
The only way i would have considered taking the train is if it took less than an hour, and cost somewhere around $5 one way, and that's just not possible.
So who's really going to ride this train? the same people that ride the CATS bus?
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:46 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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including a $62.1 million rebuilding of the 1.8-mile trestle across the Bonnet Carré Spillway.
Well, that would be good news for me at least.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:47 pm to TeddyPadillac
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There are regulations that only allow for trains to go 10mph over the Bonnet Carre, which is 10 miles long.
The bulk of the cost of this plan us to upgrade that section of track so that trains will be able to go upwards of 100mph on that section.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:50 pm to fightin tigers
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The train stops on the edge of the CBD. The streetcar will take you wherever or catch one of the free shuttles that a lot of buildings provide.
I don't work in the CBD. There's tons of offices on Causeway /Esplanade and in Elmwood. How do I get there?
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You aren't driving from BR to NOLA for $15/day. Maybe for $15 in gas.
Is there some other hidden expense i'm not aware of outside of gas? Are you looking for me to add in my sunflower seeds and coke zero?
I drove to NO everyday. I filled up Monday morning in BR and Wednesday afternoon in N.O. It cost $40 to fill up my car, which is $80/week, which is $16/day.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:56 pm to TeddyPadillac
Don't be late for your monorail. Only one train per commute.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I don't work in the CBD. There's tons of offices on Causeway /Esplanade and in Elmwood. How do I get there?
Get off at Zephyr Field and take a shuttle.
I would also be in favor of Divvy Bike stations being everywhere like they are in Chicago. Those things were awesome and super convenient.
This post was edited on 7/15/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/15/15 at 2:10 pm to brodeo
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The bulk of the cost of this plan us to upgrade that section of track so that trains will be able to go upwards of 100mph on that section.
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But the trains would not long speed along at 110 mph, settling instead for a top speed of 79 mph.
This trip from my house to my place of work will take a good 2.5 hours, and cost just as much as driving.
I'm not saying it's a bad idea to have commuter trains, i just don't think we have the infrastructure or the type of people to make this endeavor something that won't end up being inefficient and a waste of money. I'd rather my tax money going towards the interstate and surface streets.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 2:23 pm to TeddyPadillac
80 miles
80 miles per hour average
7 stops at 2 minutes a piece
94 minutes or just over an hour and a half.
Agreed. However, if there is money available for light rail that is not available for interstates, I'll take it. We really need interstates, but rail would be useful for sure.
80 miles per hour average
7 stops at 2 minutes a piece
94 minutes or just over an hour and a half.
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I'd rather my tax money going towards the interstate and surface streets.
Agreed. However, if there is money available for light rail that is not available for interstates, I'll take it. We really need interstates, but rail would be useful for sure.
This post was edited on 7/15/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 7/15/15 at 2:24 pm to TeddyPadillac
What about contra flow during hurricane season when the trains are only allowed to go one direction? Will they purchase enough trains and stage them all in new Orleans to be effective in an evacuation. If we only have a few trains and contra flow is implemented, only a small percentage of the population can be evacuated.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 2:26 pm to teampick
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What about contra flow during hurricane season when the trains are only allowed to go one direction? Will they purchase enough trains and stage them all in new Orleans to be effective in an evacuation. If we only have a few trains and contra flow is implemented, only a small percentage of the population can be evacuated.
Why would they contra flow the tracks when they need to bring trains back to pick up more people. That's just stupid.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 2:26 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
LOL, no.
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