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re: Deadly boat accident on Tickfaw River at midnight (2 killed, 6 injured)

Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by BomBayTiger
Member since Feb 2009
4210 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:29 pm to
Do we know if the pontoon was moving when it was hit by the sea fox? Or were they just sitting in the river?
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2341 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:49 pm to
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I have NEVER heard of this. Born before 84 and idk anyone who has taken a boating test.


I have been operating a boat since i was 11 or 12 years old like a lot of people here but still took this online course.

It changed a while back it use to be born after 88 had to take it and they changed it to born after 84. I was born in 85 and took it. online course that took about an hour.

The problem is that it teaches you rules, it doesn't actually teach you how to operate a boat like a driver's ed course would a car. Just because you pass the online course doesn't mean you can operate a vessel. After seeing people at launches and on the water it is apparent most cannot. It is especially bad in the summer months with the party barges and wake board crowd.
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1718 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:24 pm to
Party barge was going around 20 or so. Just normal cruising.
Sea fox was going 52 MPH per life 360 from people on their boat at the time of crash.
It’s not good for the sea fox driver. Thats all I will say.
Posted by Tigerbind
Member since Jul 2024
16 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:09 am to
The irresponsible Sea fox driver that wasn’t even paying attention. That almost hit a tree line so he yanked the wheel at the last minute which sent the sea fox directly towards the pontoon.

This guy should have never been allowed to operate a boat. Much less own one.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3590 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:10 am to
52 mph at night is incredibly fricking ignorant and insane. It’s literally the recipe for how to kill people on the water.
Posted by GooDat
The Delta
Member since Dec 2013
293 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:17 am to
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This guy should have never been allowed to operate a boat. Much less own one.


If he was drinking this won't be an issue as he is going to spend many many years behind bars
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44883 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:25 am to
For the lawyers on here, would they be able to use that speed obtained from their 360 or does that not hold up in court? Just wondering
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6409 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:25 am to
Wonder if the sea fox owner has a tangible assets?
Even a Mil on liability isn’t going to be enough with two fatalities and multiple injuries.
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
8511 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:27 am to
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Wonder if the sea fox owner has a tangible assets?

He owns some land and a house in Holden
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3590 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:46 am to
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For the lawyers on here, would they be able to use that speed obtained from their 360 or does that not hold up in court? Just wondering


Yes. That and gps data and any other electronically stored data can all be authenticated and introduced via experts.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44890 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:16 am to
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If he was drinking this won't be an issue as he is going to spend many many years behind bars


If he was going 52 mph, it may not matter if he wasn’t drinking. An argument for negligent homicide can still be made based off speed alone at night.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58309 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:40 am to
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I am way to the right but there needs to be a licensing requirement to operate a boat.
Passing the Rules of the Road test should be a min requirement for license.
there is..... anyone born after Jan 1 1984 has to have a license


Which is complete bullshite. That means someone born on December 30th 1983 that has NEVER driven or seen a boat, can legally drive a bot without one... But someone born on Jan 1 1984, who grew up around boats, driven boats since they were kids, piloted large vessels, has to have a license. That's idiotic.

If the government/people want to require a license. require it for everyone, dont put an arbituaty date on it.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58309 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:41 am to
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Younger folks have to take a boaters safety course, but there isn’t a license.
that is your license.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1359 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:49 am to
Please don’t start the license vs certification argument again. It went on for far too long earlier and it’s basically just a big argument on semantics.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46704 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:08 am to
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If he was going 52 mph, it may not matter if he wasn’t drinking.
and if he was drinking, it wont matter how fast he was going
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58309 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:09 pm to
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It went on for far too long earlier and it’s basically just a big argument on semantics.
right but its the law.


im just mad that its set up on a date. thats bullshite
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23418 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:22 pm to
Any more update on how it actually happened? Obviously speed is an issue, was visibility of the sea fox by the pontoon an issue? I guess with it being a T-bone I'm surprised the pontoon didn't take more evasive action to wildly avoid the sea fox. But at 50+mph maybe that just wasn't easy/ possible?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23418 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:22 pm to
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right but its the law.


im just mad that its set up on a date. thats bullshite


Hunter's Education is the same way
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58309 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Hunter's Education is the same way
right and its bullshite.... why should someone born before sept 1, 1969 not need to take hunters ed?


if you want a certification/license.... make is mandatory for all.
Posted by GooDat
The Delta
Member since Dec 2013
293 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:30 pm to
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If he was going 52 mph, it may not matter if he wasn’t drinking. An argument for negligent homicide can still be made based off speed alone at night


Is there a speed limit on the tickfaw?

If there isn’t, could they still get him for negligent homicide if he technically wasn’t breaking any laws at the time of the accident? If he happened to be under the legal limit.
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