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re: Dave Smith is currently murdering Chris Cuomo live on PBD’s Podcast over Covid

Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
702 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:22 pm to
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Lol the man is a huge libertarian. Look at that party.

He also said he disagrees and doesn't like a lot of things Trump did


It's OK to think that someone is good on some issues, terrible on others. You don't have to agree with Trump just because he's Trump - thats how the left works, dont do that.

If Dave thinks the negative of Trump outweighs the positive and won't support him that's fine, but it's a good thing that he at least gives credit where credit is due.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21733 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:41 pm to
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Chris Cuomo

Jesus, I forgot just how slimy that bastard is now that he's been out of the spotlight as much. Just listening to him trying to duck and dodge every point that gets brought up in the first 20 minutes of that podcast is so cringe worthy.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 9:42 pm
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13841 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:50 pm to
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He’s right about a lot but the way he is so openly against israel means he’s either just a contrarian for the sake of likes or he has a large gap in shared fundamental principles.


He totally loses me with his Israel/Gaza stance.

I think guys like him and Glen greenwald hate American foreign policy so much they blindly align themselves against our allies or position.

I much prefer the nuanced views of tulsi gabbard.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6240 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:57 pm to
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Israel


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our allies


lol

Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8103 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:09 pm to
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Lol the man is a huge libertarian. Look at that party. He also said he disagrees and doesn't like a lot of things Trump did


Get that 2% and continue to bitch and complain without out doing a damn thing. A lot of people don’t care for what’s going on, or like the two people that will be on the ballot in November. Common sense tells me the sitting President and the people that are pulling the strings need to GTFO, and GTFO is putting it lightly for those cocksuckers, and anyone that supports them.
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2138 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:23 pm to
Fair enough but there’s just no logic to that. Being anti war and making a choice between defending yourself or ceasing to exist are obviously two different things.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8103 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:27 pm to
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our allies lol


Israel damn sure ain’t perfect but neither are we, and I’ll side with Israel over the barbaric Islamic killers every single day. The fact that we have college kids and the people that are supposedly teaching them in this country supporting people that wouldn’t think twice about killing them is beyond laughable.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13841 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:43 pm to
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Fair enough but there’s just no logic to that. Being anti war and making a choice between defending yourself or ceasing to exist are obviously two different things.


Further, smith is anti Ukraine/pro Russia and I don't think his reasoning aligns with a blanket anti-war stance.

I'd buy Smith's anti Israel stance if he was also anti Russia.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
21634 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:13 pm to
It’s not rocket science to see that whoever wins this election will determine direction of this country

Trump - peace and prosperity
Biden - Communism and poor

So I don’t give a flying frick if you are a Republican, libertarian or democrat

If you don’t support Trump then you support Communism

If you support Biden then you support communists and pedophiles and open borders and men playing women sports and bla bla bla

And you mean to fricking tell me that he won’t announce that he will be voting for Trump because he’s a fricking libertarian? That’s horseshite and a fricking coward.

Same with Joe Rogan
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35374 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:37 pm to
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Dave Smith is the man


He had one hell of a fork ball. One of the best closers of the 80's. RIP

Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4440 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 6:22 am to
Legion of Skank’s days are numbered.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11559 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 6:31 am to
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He had one hell of a fork ball. One of the best closers of the 80's. RIP
That HOU pitching staff on Nintendo RBI Baseball was filthy.

Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott, Charlie Kerfeld, and Dave Smith.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75705 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:07 am to
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That HOU pitching staff on Nintendo RBI Baseball was filthy.

Nolan Ryan, Mike Scott, Charlie Kerfeld, and Dave Smith.


Imagine if JR Richard stayed healthy.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:48 am to
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He’s right about a lot but the way he is so openly against israel means he’s either just a contrarian for the sake of likes or he has a large gap in shared fundamental principles.


Or, think about this. Perhaps Israel is yet another thing that our government has perpetually lied to us about. Which option has the better track record the past few decades?

And I don’t mean it in the way brainwashed college leftists mean it (white colonialism and genocide). I just mean the facts of how everything about the foundation of the state and what has happened since is misunderstood or just flat out not known by 95% of the US population.
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
702 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:50 am to
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Fair enough but there’s just no logic to that. Being anti war and making a choice between defending yourself or ceasing to exist are obviously two different things.


Well that's not his logic at all. He repeatedly says Israel has a right to respond and defend itself. An attack like that has to be responded to.

His point is much more nuanced then the Dennis Prager "one side wants peace, the other side wants war" nonsense. Two points of many that stick out: 1) there has to be a better way to respond that does not include bombing civilians and 2) if we are going to support a war we should at least make an attempt to understand exactly how we got here. Very much like Ron Paul's stance on Afghanistan and rhetoric around "they hate us because we are free" being such a bullshite reasoning for why 9/11 happened - its a serious thing and we should really understand what got us here and the motivations.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6129 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:55 am to
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Further, smith is anti Ukraine/pro Russia and I don't think his reasoning aligns with a blanket anti-war stance. I'd buy Smith's anti Israel stance if he was also anti Russia.


When are you idiots going to realize that being against funding Ukraine does not make you “pro Russia.”

Try to think for yourself, just once.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:56 am to
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Further, smith is anti Ukraine/pro Russia and I don't think his reasoning aligns with a blanket anti-war stance.

I'd buy Smith's anti Israel stance if he was also anti Russia.


First of all, this “pro Russia” or “pro Hamas” language is the most childish shite ever. Very very few people are unironically “pro Russia”

Secondly, it aligns perfectly well when you consider the fact the war was 100% avoidable and is 100% a response to US led aggressive NATO expansion, even though it was very well known in the top levels of our government that Ukraine and NATO discussions were Russia’s blazing red line.

And even after all of that, a couple of months after the war started, Zelenskyy and Putin had a peace agreement on the table, and the US and UK torpedo’d the deal. The continuation of this war is 100% the responsibility of the United States and our allies.

I’ve said 100% 3 times already to emphasize how I mean it literally.
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
702 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:09 am to
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Further, smith is anti Ukraine/pro Russia and I don't think his reasoning aligns with a blanket anti-war stance.

I'd buy Smith's anti Israel stance if he was also anti Russia


This board really struggles with any position that's more nuanced than Us Good Them Bad.

His positions are very blanket anti-war. Any loss of human life is a tragedy. Where is position loses you is he focuses on the how or why we are here and calls out the perceived aggressor (see: non aggression principle)

He's not Pro Russia or anti Ukraine, he's anti-Globalist politicians (Victoria Nuland et al) putting Ukraine on a direct course for this since 2014. CIA color revolutions! Boris Johnson squashing peace deals! More billions to let poor Ukranian men die! NATO expansion (see: "nyet means nyet memo"

He's not anti-israel, pro hamas - he's anti-Netanyahu and his anti palestine political moves (way too deep a topic to list, see Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem) and against bombing cities/killing civilians vs tactical strikes against combatants. He would 100% be onboard with Hamas ceasing to exist tomorrow.
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 8:11 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43307 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:15 am to
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If you don’t support Trump then you support Communism



This is a terrible, terrible take. Trump should immediately be DQ’s by any rational measure for his COVID response alone.


This is easily the worst slate of presidential candidates in my lifetime.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:19 am to
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This board really struggles with any position that's more nuanced than Us Good Them Bad.

His positions are very blanket anti-war. Any loss of human life is a tragedy. Where is position loses you is he focuses on the how or why we are here and calls out the perceived aggressor (see: non aggression principle)

He's not Pro Russia or anti Ukraine, he's anti-Globalist politicians (Victoria Nuland et al) putting Ukraine on a direct course for this since 2014. CIA color revolutions! Boris Johnson squashing peace deals! More billions to let poor Ukranian men die! NATO expansion (see: "nyet means nyet memo"

He's not anti-israel, pro hamas - he's anti-Netanyahu and his anti palestine political moves (way too deep a topic to list, see Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem) and against bombing cities/killing civilians vs tactical strikes against combatants. He would 100% be onboard with Hamas ceasing to exist tomorrow.


Oh wow, someone who knows what he’s talking about
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