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Darwin’s Doubt: the mathematical problem of evolution and DNA

Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:53 am


This guy, Stephen C. Meyer, is being interviewed by Ben Shapiro, an lays out a rather good argument as to why there are problems with the theory of evolution as is commonly accepted today; namely that the amount of mutations at the DNA level necessary to create single cell life and have it evolve into the vast diversity of complex life we see today, which includes us, simply does not add up. The theory of evolution can explain microevolution, but when it comes to macroevolution, that’s where the math simply doesn’t math.

The video is a little under 10 minutes, well worth the watch.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:56 am to
Seen it before, enjoyed it

Seems there are a few problems with accepted science
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:01 am to
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Seems there are a few problems with accepted science


I know this subject will be a flashpoint for some who treat evolution more like a religion than science. But if they really do worship science, then they should adhere to the teachings of scientific method. And if thy do that, the only logical explanation is that the theory of evolution as we know it today simply cannot explain macroevolution.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:04 am to
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And if thy do that, the only logical explanation is that the theory of evolution as we know it today simply cannot explain macroevolution.
so then what does?
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:04 am to
Downvotes away
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:09 am to
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And if thy do that, the only logical explanation is that the theory of evolution as we know it today simply cannot explain macroevolution.


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so then what does?


Simply put, an I’m not a scientist, though I do possess the ability to use logic and reason, if random mutations cannot explain macroevolution, then the only alternative is that there is nothing random in the makeup of the genetic information contained in DNA.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:10 am to
Recycled intelligent design arguments.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:10 am to
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if random mutations cannot explain macroevolution


You’re assuming that they cannot though.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:10 am to
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The theory of evolution can explain microevolution

Yes. Adaptation and selective breeding; not the evolution of new species.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:11 am to
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Downvotes away


I fully anticipated that. They cannot argue against the points the guy in the video made, but their religious belief in the theory of evolution will not allow them to accept anything that goes against it. Thus, all they have left to them at that point is a meaningless down vote.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:12 am to
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The theory of evolution can explain microevolution, but when it comes to macroevolution, that’s where the math simply doesn’t math.



Its complete nonsense. This guy has been debunked many many many times
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:13 am to
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Seems there are a few problems with accepted science


Its the theory of evolution, not the law of evolution. You aren't really into science if you aren't into challenging and proving or disproving theory.

Scientific me says the timeline must be incorrect. Normal me says God and moves on to worry about something else.
Posted by Bridget O
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:13 am to
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Downvotes away


Ok….gave you your first downvote. Come on….give him what he wants.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 9:15 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:13 am to
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if random mutations cannot explain macroevolution


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You’re assuming that they cannot though.


False. Watch the video. Scientists have done the math on random mutations being the source of macroevolution and it simply doesn’t add up.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:14 am to
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then the only alternative is that there is nothing random in the makeup of the genetic information contained in DNA
meaning?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:15 am to
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False. Watch the video.


I’ve read plenty of criticisms of Stephen Meyer’s arguments, many of which he presents as settled facts, and which you just believe.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:17 am to
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Ok….gave you your first downvote. Come on….give him what he wants.


Thank you
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:19 am to
Your problem is you're watching him talking to Shapiro. You'd get way more out of it if you watched him talking to a peer who challenges some of his assertions.

If I start talking to you about stuff in my field of work (assuming you're not in same field), I can tell you a lot of lies that will sound logical to you.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:21 am to
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False. Watch the video. Scientists have done the math on random mutations being the source of macroevolution and it simply doesn’t add up.
One variable to add to whether or not there has been enough time for enough mutations to occur to explain macroevolution is non-random but natural factors such as from the environment (e.g. radiation).
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1645 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:22 am to
If you have to go to YouTube with your scientific hypothesis…you don’t have a serious scientific hypothesis.

This shite has been debunked time and time again, but it isn’t a good faith argument so it never dies. Keep getting bamboozled, though.
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