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DARPA Selects Aurora Flight Sciences for Phase 2 of Active Flow Control X-Plane

Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:36 pm


DARPA enters a new phase in creation of an aircraft with no exterior moving parts.

DARPA has selected Aurora Flight Sciences to design a full-scale X-plane that relies solely on changes in air flow for in-flight maneuvers.


DARPA Twitter

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DARPA has selected Aurora Flight Sciences to move into the detailed design phase of the Control of Revolutionary Aircraft with Novel Effectors (CRANE) program. This follows successful completion of the project’s Phase 1 preliminary design, which resulted in an innovative testbed aircraft that used active flow control (AFC) to generate control forces in a wind tunnel test. Phase 2 will focus on detailed design and development of flight software and controls, culminating in a critical design review of an X-plane demonstrator that can fly without traditional moving flight controls on the exterior of the wings and tail.


Defense-Aerospace

I just thought I would share this with those of you that are interested in this kind of stuff, like me. Reminds me of the "mythical" TR-3B.



Remember, we didn't have an F-117, (that we knew about), until we learned about it during Desert Storm.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15546 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:40 pm to
Last picture (fake I know) looks like a tic tac
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:47 pm to
How do you control air flow if nothing exterior can be manipulated ?
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3251 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:49 pm to
That’s classified
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5544 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

How do you control air flow if nothing exterior can be manipulated ?


How's posi track on a Plymouth work?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:52 pm to
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Aurora Flight Sciences


quote:

Aurora
Posted by aileron
H-Town
Member since Apr 2018
236 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:52 pm to
This was basically my master's thesis about 20 years ago. I'd better check for patent infringement.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:54 pm to
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How do you control air flow if nothing exterior can be manipulated ?


I'm guessing it's got alot of tiny thrusters to maneuver it.
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4753 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Remember, we didn't have an F-117, (that we knew about), until we learned about it during Desert Storm


Or the stealth Blackhawk until the bin Laden raid. In fact we still don’t know about the stealth Blackhawk.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5613 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:55 pm to
Dodges and Plymouths don't have posi trac. They have sure grip super track pacs and track pacs.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Remember, we didn't have an F-117, (that we knew about), until we learned about it during Desert Storm.


which is funny because it had been in service for 10 years and was based on late 60s-mid 70s tech. crazy thing is other than a handful of countries(less that 10) the nighthawk is still 2 decades more advanced than their tech

just like the F-22....most of that is 80s and very early 90s tech except for some small upgrades.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35465 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

How do you control air flow if nothing exterior can be manipulated ?
Posted by BumKnee
Member since Oct 2021
121 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:07 pm to
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How's posi track on a Plymouth work?


All I know is that positraction was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5901 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:24 pm to
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All I know is that positraction was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark.


That is what those "youts" were not driving.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51484 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 4:10 pm to
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How do you control air flow if nothing exterior can be manipulated ?


By being covered in rich, Corinthian leather.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19261 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 4:18 pm to
Rogan interviewed an investigative reporter recently who spent several years investigating DARPA & it's scary. Not only what's on the drawing table and what's being tested but also who is pulling the purse strings. Musk has called it THE most secretive agency in the Federal Govt. and is doing things with A.I.'s that are beyond the general public's imagination. He said Russia has its own DARPA & it's all in on A.I.'s as well.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35348 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 4:24 pm to
I'd love to see a Russian AI.
Posted by stbtiger87
BR
Member since Feb 2009
73 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:14 pm to
You can’t beat old aerodynamics/fluid mechanics videos from the 50s. YouTube

Fast forward to 9m45s and 20m40s to parts about active flow control using slots and jets like what this X plane will probably be using. Or watch the whole thing because these videos are awesome.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:24 pm to
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no exterior moving parts


Oh yea tf right
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:50 pm to
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I'd love to see a Russian AI


I bet it's really good at Chess.
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