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re: Dallas PD Guyger Trial: Guilty of Murder..Sentence to 10years in prison
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:24 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:24 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:She wasn’t there in an official capacity. She walked to the wrong fricking door. I don’t see how that can even be up for debate ... unless you think she’s lying about that and went up there with the intent to kill the guy?
Unless you believe officers of the law can violate the 4th amendment.
quote:I don’t see negligence as described by law. If you do then explain it to me. If I’m wrong then I’ll change my opinion on the issue.
People like you make me lose hope that there will ever be real accountability towards negligent officers who shouldn't have been officers in the first place.
quote:Not disagreeing with that. However, if we go down that road then there’s someone else who should be on trial here as well - whomever was responsible for her being an officer.
officers who shouldn't have been officers in the first place
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:31 pm to Restomod
Murderous honky.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:33 pm to SlapahoeTribe
If walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone isn’t negligent, then what the hell is?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:38 pm to southernelite
quote:What is the Mens rea?
walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone isn’t negligent, then what the hell is?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:43 pm to SlapahoeTribe
She did knowingly open that door with her gun with the intent to kill the threat. She should have reasonable known before opening the door that she was not entering her own apartment. That, to me, is negligent.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:46 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:oh boy
I don’t see negligence as described by law
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:47 pm to southernelite
quote:
walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone isn’t negligent, then what the hell is?
Certainly negligent. But was it murder? She didn’t set out with the intention of murdering her neighbor that evening, I don’t think.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:47 pm to southernelite
Well, that’s your opinion. I on the other hand see how easy it would be to accidentally walk into the wrong apartment in a complex such as this - even the man’s neighbor, a witness for the prosecution, admitted that it had happened to him before.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:47 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:
Only thing in my head is if an officer opens my door and demands hands, I'm complying and dealing with the aftermath alive. How did Jean know the officer didn't have a lawful reason for being at his door?
One thing that stood out to me was that she never once claimed that she identified herself as an officer.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:48 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
. I on the other hand see how easy it would be to accidentally walk into the wrong apartment in a complex such as this - even the man’s neighbor, a witness for the prosecution, admitted that it had happened to him before.
So you, the chick cop, and the neighbor are all fricking morons.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:48 pm to SlapahoeTribe
Are you really arguing for her to get off scot free?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:57 pm to TH03
quote:Yeah, you’re a perfect human being, and have never walked up to the wrong car coming out of an airport, never got off at the wrong floor of a parking garage, never walked into the wrong room, never taken a wrong turn, nothing?
So you, the chick cop, and the neighbor are all fricking morons.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:00 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone isn’t negligent, then what the hell is?
quote:
What is the Mens rea?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:00 pm to SlapahoeTribe
I don’t think he’s pulled out his gun to shoot somebody relaxing in his home and then proceeded to not administer CPR despite being fully capable.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:00 pm to biglego
I never said she should be convicted of murder. I said she should be convicted of voluntary manslaughter.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:02 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
Well, that’s your opinion. I on the other hand see how easy it would be to accidentally walk into the wrong apartment in a complex such as this - even the man’s neighbor, a witness for the prosecution, admitted that it had happened to him before.
I’ve had someone walk in my apartment too, but they walk in a get confused. If you heard someone in the apartment beforehand, then you would likely think to check the apartment number before barging in with a gun.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:02 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
you’re a perfect human being, and have never walked up to the wrong car coming out of an airport, never got off at the wrong floor of a parking garage, never walked into the wrong room, never taken a wrong turn, nothing?
you see those are normal mistakes
you're missing a big piece of the puzzle
you forgot to add "and then shot and killed somebody who was legally present and innocent"
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:03 pm to southernelite
quote:
If you heard someone in the apartment beforehand, then you would likely think to check the apartment number before barging in with a gun.
that's entirely too reasonable
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:03 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
SlapahoeTribe
I think you're missing the fact that she killed somebody.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
He seems to not know you can be punished for making stupid and careless mistakes
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