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re: Current, former LA officials spar over scuttled coastal project (Mid-Barataria Diversion)
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:54 am to ragincajun03
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:54 am to ragincajun03
All of these ongoings aren’t too surprising considering the civilization is built on a river delta
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:00 am to ragincajun03
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“You are an idiot if you think that’s the case,” Graves said.
First day in Louisiana Garret?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:02 am to Tarps99
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there are plenty of dolphins or really porpoises that frequent that area.
I'm really not sure why people started calling them porpoises over the years. They're all common bottle nosed dolphins.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:10 am to ragincajun03
I went to a presentation years ago where the expert said even if we blew up the levees and let the river loose again, the sediment load wasn’t enough to restore the lost land. Something about up stream dams and development having an effect. I do think he said it could stop the loss though.
Whatever our leaders do you can be assured it will be for their personal benefit, not the state or its citizens. With this Landry clown in charge that goes double.
Whatever our leaders do you can be assured it will be for their personal benefit, not the state or its citizens. With this Landry clown in charge that goes double.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:12 am to ragincajun03
Graves must have lost a lot of money with this being cancelled. Hope he goes into foreclosure.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:26 am to ragincajun03
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Billy Nungesser's blessing.
I genuinely do not understand how Billy Nungesser, coming from a parish of like 25,000 people, has enough political pull in this state that he's some kind of a kingmaker. It's not like he's some 150 iq machiavellian operator. What exactly is his leverage?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:37 am to CarRamrod
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Look at every reason they killed it and non of it makes sense because Gordy Dove is a retard. "Its too expensive" Well you arent paying for it.
I wonder who the contractor for the diversion supported in the Governor's race? If the contractor didn’t support Landry I could definitely see that being a problem.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:51 am to sabbertooth
The company that was the GC is not based in Louisiana. Atlanta based, but owned by a larger company based in Chicago.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:53 am to Cold Cous Cous
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Billy Nungesser, coming from a parish of like 25,000 people, has enough political pull in this state that he's some kind of a kingmaker.
I have a camp on Lake Bistineau in N LA.
Somehow Billy is the middle man for selling water out of the lake for fracking. He has a hand in everything.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:56 am to Camp Randall
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I went to a presentation years ago where the expert said even if we blew up the levees and let the river loose again, the sediment load wasn’t enough to restore the lost land. Something about up stream dams and development having an effect. I do think he said it could stop the loss though.
That was one of the things that the opponents of this project said - that it would produce very minimal land gain over the course of a few decades. However - land loss has to be mitigated and ultimately stopped for land mass to build back. Considering that coastal Louisiana loses between 30 and 35 square miles each year, a project that would not only stop that land loss, but also begin to build land mass back is probably a pretty good thing.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:03 am to lsuchip30
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The company that was the GC is not based in Louisiana. Atlanta based, but owned by a larger company based in Chicago.
Where the company is based doesn't mean a GD thing....that company can support any politician they so choose
ETA: I didnt mean to reply to you...that meant for the other guy
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 9:05 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:11 am to profdillweed
All good. I agree. I just wanted to reply with what I know.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:45 am to Cold Cous Cous
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I genuinely do not understand how Billy Nungesser, coming from a parish of like 25,000 people, has enough political pull in this state that he's some kind of a kingmaker. It's not like he's some 150 iq machiavellian operator. What exactly is his leverage?
I think he gained some name recognition and popularity during the BP oil spill when he never declined an interview. He came off as a man of the people, and people believed it. In reality, he's a crooked AF politician with competent legal and financial advisors who've managed to create enough shell companies for his business interests to keep him out of real trouble.
He has money and access to lots of land along the river in Plaquemines Parish, and that's why he still has any kind of political pull.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:58 am to ILurkThereforeIAm
Not a Landry fan but JBE and Graves supporting this makes me suspicious
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:04 am to Tarps99
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I am pretty sure the BP funds will be bone dry when we are looking to spend more money on this one single project instead of smaller projects all along the coast.
So where are the BP funds going to go now? To lawsuits from the contractors whose contracts you just canceled mid project.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:06 am to winkchance
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So where are the BP funds going to go now?
Mississippi, Alabama and Florida
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:09 am to winkchance
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So where are the BP funds going to go now? To lawsuits from the contractors whose contracts you just canceled mid project.
Well - 600 million of those funds went to mobilization costs for multiple companies, initial site work including materials, and weekly costs for those dozens of subcontractors to sit there for a year and do almost nothing.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:09 am to ILurkThereforeIAm
Fat arse Nungesser has deep ties into the Republican Party dating back to the Dave Treen days, plus he’s a prophet to the people and oil companies in Plaquemines Parish
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:07 am to ragincajun03
The oyster Mafia is harvesting on what once was land.
I can’t imagine why that is. Maybe we could do something to create more land,
JK. frick you Landry and Fat Billie. We’ll know more about true motives when Shane Guidry gets in the dredging business.
I can’t imagine why that is. Maybe we could do something to create more land,
JK. frick you Landry and Fat Billie. We’ll know more about true motives when Shane Guidry gets in the dredging business.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 12:41 pm to Camp Randall
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even if we blew up the levees and let the river loose again, the sediment load wasn’t enough to restore the lost land
This is not entirely accurate. Is the sediment load less than the days when the Mississippi River basin was being settled, the great southern old growth forests were cut down, and massive amounts of surface erosion were occurring and driving an inflated high sediment load?...yes.
However, it is a red herring.
If dredging is the only viable solution as some claim, where would we get that material, since apparently the river has nothing in it? The same people who want to dredge the river to rebuild land (such a strategy inherently assumes enough replenish-able sediment is in the river) want to claim said river has no sediment in it.
It has been proven in peer-reviewed scientific literature that the major new breaks at Mardi Gras Pass, Neptune Pass, or the artificial cut at West Bay, or the Wax and Atchafalaya did not build just from the new channels cut when they were formed, but more than half the material deposited is entirely new transported material. That number will only continue to grow.
The river has plenty of sediment to rebuild plenty of land. An appropriate analogy for writing off river sediment is like foregoing a winning Powerball ticket of 500M dollars because last month the jackpot was 1B dollars.
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