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re: Crossfit is a sham- as told by a crossfitter

Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:08 pm to
I've been on the road 4/5 weeks, so, yeah, I skipped leg day for a while.

Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:13 pm to
I guess I read the article differently than you did, I don't think they could list every possible athletic endeavor.
The hate is just strong for Crossfit gyms, I really find it nuts.

for example, Kipping pull ups done correctly are pretty safe I don't kip because I lack the mechanics to keep my shoulder stable, why do I know this, my gym owner taught me..as well as my own training. So I do strict, I will continue to them until I can go about 15, and also master a kip. A proper kip basically decreases stress on the AC joint, relieves compression on the bursa and supra spinatus, engages the posterior chain and stabilizes the complex. This is similar to ring rows which no one has a problem with.....just a brief overview on a common Crossfit activity that is misrepresented quite often.
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:24 pm to
I'm not quoting some article, but crossfit beliefs...I posted early in thread on page 5, I think.

quote:

The below excerpt is why crossfit is so full of shite and themselves, but I wish I could find the founder's idiotic quote proclaiming crossfitters could compete at elite levels of different sports. The dude is off his rocker and a cult leader....

quote:
“Fringe Athletes”
There is a near universal misconception that long distance athletes are fitter that their short distance counterparts. The
triathlete, cyclist, and marathoner are often regarded as among the fittest athletes on earth. Nothing could be farther
from the truth. The endurance athlete has trained long past any cardiovascular health benefit and has lost ground in
strength, speed, and power, typically does nothing for coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy and possesses little
more than average flexibility. This is hardly the stuff of elite athleticism. The CrossFit athlete, remember, has trained
and practiced for optimal physical competence in all ten physical skills (cardiovascular/respiratory endurance, stamina,
flexibility, strength, power, speed, coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy). The excessive aerobic volume of the
endurance athlete’s training has cost him in speed, power, and strength to the point where his athletic competency
has been compromised. No triathlete is in ideal shape to wrestle, box, pole-vault, sprint, play any ball sport, fight fires,
or do police work. Each of these requires a fitness level far beyond the needs of the endurance athlete. None of this
suggests that being a marathoner, triathlete or other endurance athlete is a bad thing; just don’t believe that training
as a long distance athlete gives you the fitness that is prerequisite to many sports. CrossFit considers the Sumo
Wrestler, triathlete, marathoner, and power lifter to be “fringe athletes” in that their fitness demands are so specialized
as to be inconsistent with the adaptations that give maximum competency at all physical challenges. Elite strength
and conditioning is a compromise between each of the ten physical adaptations. Endurance athletes do not balance
that compromise.


Repeat..Completely absurd!
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:28 pm to
Why do they refer to cardio as "metcon"? Seems kinda douchey.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:32 pm to
Like I said you are reading something I am not, it specifically yields to the great fitness in multiple domains of a pole vaulter, just as you have said twice prior.

The article simply states that while endurance athletes are highly adapted to endurance activity, it makes them not universal in regards to fitness. I don't think any elite marathoner would argue this.....I don't think they are talking about a guy like me, Joe Schmo dude that goes to a Crossfit gym being as fit as aKenyan. Because I workout 5 times a week . Just that those particular athletes are not, these dude run, and they do it spectacularly well, but many other components of fitness are disregarded. Do you agree or disagree with that?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

literally all strength is functional. there is no such thing as non-functional strength




all strength is functional, but at varying degrees.


people train for different reasons, and with different amenities.

you wont get the same results with machines as you do with free weights., for instance.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:34 pm to
It isn't just cardio, ie running for distance and time.

Yesterday was:
Max pullups

400M run
21-15-9
135/95 jerk and 24/20 box jumps

Today was:
5x3 of front squats (pyramiding up)

4 rounds for time of..
20 goblet squats
25 sit-ups
400M run




This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:35 pm to
Please show me one crossfitter who can perform at even a high school level of these claims: ...wrestle, box, pole-vault, sprint, play any ball sport, fight fires,
or do police work while assuming they already have endurance of long distance runners or triathletes or even assume they could compete in a decathlon?

See, they are full of shite!
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:41 pm to
The article only says that the elite endurance athlete doesn't possess all aspects of fitness. These multiple domains are important in some vocation and leisure activities. It doesn't say the fit police,an is an elite endurance athlete.

What part of the last sentence of your article, the summary statement, do you disagree with
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:48 pm to
I like that we're referencing pole vaulting so much.

I had the school record for 2 years. I'm glad to see the crossfitters hold it in such high regard

Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:50 pm to
Since a lot of military personnel do crossfit, I say a good bit could do police work since you see a lot of former military joining the police ranks. It might wreck your idea of cops being donut eating fat-asses, though. In fact, I think there are 7 BRPD officers at the gym.

I know firefighters who do bootcamp/crossfit workouts as well. I guess my house will burn down if they show up?

Former gymnasts litter the ranks as well.

I remember seeing a former NCAA D1 football player in the games last year. A former WR at Notre Dame, I believe. Pay attention to some of these athletes who are borderline pro prospects looking to CF as an alternative. Once these guys realize they can make decent money in it, these former D1 athletes will flock to it.

This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

No triathlete is in ideal shape to wrestle, box, pole-vault, sprint, play any ball sport, fight fires,
or do police work. Each of these requires a fitness level far beyond the needs of the endurance athlete. None of this suggests that being a marathoner, triathlete or other endurance athlete is a bad thing; just don’t believe that training as a long distance athlete gives you the fitness that is prerequisite to many sports. CrossFit considers the Sumo Wrestler, triathlete, marathoner, and power lifter to be “fringe athletes” in that their fitness demands are so specialized
as to be inconsistent with the adaptations that give maximum competency at all physical challenges. Elite strength and conditioning is a compromise between each of the ten physical adaptations. Endurance athletes do not balance that compromise.


See what that implies? I mean, it is in your face.
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

I know firefighters who do bootcamp/crossfit workouts as well. I guess my house will burn down if they show up?


You are a loon! I mean bigtime loon!

quote:

I remember seeing a former NCAA D1 football player in the games last year. A former WR at Notre Dame, I believe. Pay attention to some of these athletes who are borderline pro prospects looking to CF as an alternative. Once these guys realize they can make decent money in it, these former D1 athletes will flock to it.


Can one crossfitter do what I said? No. If so, they would actually engage in the said sports in their bio in a real sports competition.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:58 pm to
So in your view, an elite endurance athlete is good in all modes of fitness.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:59 pm to
You are a jackass with a vendetta who can not see beyond his own blind fury against crossfit.

Some CFer must have fricked your girlfriend, or your perceived expert ability in one thing is considered fringe by the CF community to a point that it pisses you off to no end.
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:00 pm to
shite an elite pole vaulter is pretty damn fit. I mean a Kenyan marathoner is more prepared to pole vault than I thought as well
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:00 pm to
He refuses to read his own posts. It's like words have no meaning
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:03 pm to
I think he's retarded, honestly.
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

So in your view, an elite endurance athlete is good in all modes of fitness.


I never said that. Link it? But crossfitters are not good in all modes of fitness because of their regimen.

Track & Field athletes already top them. That's my point.

Do you know that the NFL relies on a former track coach as a fitness guru? Do you?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:06 pm to
Crossfits are elite baw. They just are. It says it on their website
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