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re: Crazy Religious-type dream....and I'm not religious....

Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Gr8t8s
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:54 pm to
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I know. I also worship Osiris.



We get it man, you don't agree with it. You think you are above such primitive things.

You are so educated. I mean your IQ is probably higher than any Christian.

Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:02 pm to
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The nature of man, the way many of the aspects of the Roman Catholic Church were handled, and on and on have made it extremely difficult to believe that we haven't twisted and construed God's word into something that it's not.


BTW, God hates organized religion too.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:04 pm to
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We get it man, you don't agree with it. You think you are above such primitive things.

You are so educated. I mean your IQ is probably higher than any Christian.



It's a thread where people are debating opinions. Lighten up, Francis.
Posted by subotic
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:06 pm to
It's higher than yours, I'm sure. He has presented his views in a way that any logical person can understand even if they do not agree.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:06 pm to
Can you explain why you think Osiris and Jesus are one and the same?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:09 pm to
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Can you explain why you think Osiris and Jesus are one and the same?



Oh, I didn't mean that they are the same. I just mean that they both purportedly rose from the dead, like many other religious figures.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:23 pm to
Nothing like the blessing of God in your life. I kid you not, I've sold two jobs over the phone out of the blue over the last hour and a half.

I guess you'd call it coincidence, but I haven't advertised in 6 months. IM about to be forced to hire extra help. I can't help but provide an opportunity for some people around me. Say what you will, but my measly 10% comes back a thousandfold.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:30 pm to
But you clearly equated the two. Only someone completely, undeniably ignorant of the two would do such a thing.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:32 pm to
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If you want the proof, you WILL NOT GET IT without first having faith. Once you have the faith, it's crazy how much proof you get.


I know this will fall on completely deaf ears, but you realize this would be literally true for ANYTHING...right?

If you first force yourself to believe a thing, then suddenly you see signs of that being orrect everywhere.

Take ghosts. I obviously do not believe in ghosts...BUT, on at least two occasions while staying in old hotels in NOLA I've gotten ginned up enough reading some crap in the hotel room to be, at least, spooked by simply being there. Haven't seen a thing, heard a thing, etc...just that eerie feeling that if I look in a mirror at my reflection and look away and look back that just MAYBE they'll be someone standing behind me sort of thing! haha Now, keep in mind, I'm likely the most skeptical person you'd hope to ever encounter! but by putting myself in that mindset, suddenly things which would have never EVER occurred to me pop up.

But...what if I wasn't? What if I not only was REALLY open to ghosts but openly believed in them? what do you think the chances are that I'd have interpreted some random sound, or movement of drapes or any number of common everyday things as supernatural?

God is clearly no different. If you're willing to forgo the common sense idea that we require evidence before we accept a premise, than of course you'll finds signs all around you.

Ironically, I actually have far more faith in your guys and give you far more credit than to assume you do such a silly thing in your daily lives. If you did, your minds would be so open your damn brain would fall out. At some point we all expect evidence before believing a thing. At least...in most instances...
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:37 pm to
Fair enough.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:39 pm to
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But you clearly equated the two. Only someone completely, undeniably ignorant of the two would do such a thing.



I could just have easily drawn the comparison using Dionysus or any number of other holy characters who allegedly rose from the dead. It is a common theme with religions around the globe throughout history and says more about people than it does about hard history, in my opinion. Beyond that, I say naught.
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:46 pm to
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Ahh, ok. This I have a problem with. The religious do not get a monopoly on knowledge or skepticism. You do not get to say "Jesus is the son of god and our only salvation" and then turn around and claim "well, maybe it's just beyond our comprehension and not susceptible to being described by the senses."


I didn't claim or express whether I even have specific religious or spiritual beliefs. Nice assumption.

You can use your debating class tactics if you wish but the world is in no way based on simple logic. The majority of the world is not black or white. You'd likely argue in favor of situational ethics rather than absolute ethics even though you take what amounts to the opposite position in your arguments here.

I am sure you believe in many things that are not directly able to be proven. You deal in probabilities of being correct and others use Faith. Both require a degree of faith in what one believes in and neither has to be mutually exclusive. Let me know what the clouds look like.
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:52 pm to
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It's higher than yours, I'm sure. He has presented his views in a way that any logical person can understand even if they do not agree.


I posted my beliefs in a well thought out and non-judgmental way several pages back. It gets old having to defend our beliefs because someone thinks it's nutty.

I'm not a scientologist torturing my felliw scientologist a.
Posted by BuddyLAM
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:54 pm to
I would talk to those close to you and maybe a priest and be open to the idea of the church. Good luck and God bless
Posted by BuddyLAM
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:54 pm to
I would talk to those close to you and maybe a priest and be open to the idea of the church. Good luck and God bless

Being a Christinan won't be easy but it will be worth it
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:02 pm to
I'm amazed at the amount of people, including OP, who take dreams so seriously. They aren't signs or omens. They are your brain spazzing out.

Maybe you are having a religious crisis and need god to fill a void or something, or you are afraid of god sending you to hell. If that the case then go to church. Otherwise forget about it and move on.
Posted by Gr8t8s
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:05 pm to
For the vast majority of dreams, I would agree with you. Just something different about this one...
Posted by marinebioman
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:08 pm to
The people that are constantly looking to have their questions answered regarding Jesus, faith, the Bible, etc. are not looking for a reason to believe. They are looking for a reason not to believe.

"Okay so you answered that question...but what about this?" and so on and so on. Doubting or being skeptical is not a bad thing, but constantly demanding proof of everything is not a relationship, which is what we are meant to have with Jesus. Can you imagine wanting to know EVERYTHING about someone before you decide to get in a relationship with them? Let me ask it another way, if you are married, have you found out things you didn't know about them beforehand? The answer is undoubtedly yes. That is a true relationship. Questioning everything and demanding answers to everything before you decide to have a relationship with Jesus is wrong.

Until recently I have struggled with doubting so much that I couldn't fully put my trust in Jesus. I am well-educated, a scientist by profession which means I am always seeking answers. Its my nature to do so. Until I realized that I was looking for reasons not to believe and ignoring the signs that Jesus has already given me, I could never fully find peace as a Christian.

Why is it that people demand more to believe in God than they require to believe in basically anything else?
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:09 pm to
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