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re: Coworkers Who Are Overly Formal Emails?

Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:44 am to
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:44 am to
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A lot people use it as an opportunity to sound smart. They don't realize that no one is impressed.

You don't have to be overly-formal when interacting with people via email to still be professional. It usually just comes off as pretentious.


This.

I'm not using slang or including emojis. I'm communicating in a way normal people usually communicate. All execs I know do the exact same thing so I don't give a damn if someone forwards it on.

None of the execs I correspond with send "Dear OP, thanks for the question" type of bullshite responses. They just respond the way everyone else does when communicating. People over formalizing emails is what makes offices so stuffy and intimidating to people IMO.

And I travel a ton so yea I email people who are technically in the same office as me but might be in a different country at the moment.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36658 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:45 am to
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Is this industry-dependent (I work for an engineering firm)?


Maybe for industrial but not commercial. We're fairly informal when we are coordinating with clients. There aren't many email chains where we're hashing out details that don't contain a joke or two.

Also, architects never complain about our erections.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:45 am to
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Emails are FOREVER.


Unless they get mysteriously deleted; At that point you are ready to begin your campaign for President of the United States.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:46 am to
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Hillary says otherwise...


We aren't done digging on this one...
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:47 am to
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We aren't done digging on this one...



If you need more shovels, count on me for a contribution.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:49 am to
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I have one co-worker who starts every e-mail to me with "Dear Mr. LSUBoo" and ends every one with "Cordially yours," which I find to be weird. Dude is in the next office over, literally there is one wall between us, yet he types up e-mails as if he is contacting the Governor or something. It's strange.



Exactly. Getting emails from grown men that say "dear" and "regards" is just fricking weird.

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On the other hand, don't be that guy that replies with just "k" or "no fricking clue" or something equally informal.



Yea I wasn't trying to insinuate I'm some ignorant heathen. I know not to send anything vulgar or rudely short.

People in work places are just so damn weird. Why can't we email (while being professional) in atleast something similar to normal accepted vernacular?

And no I'm not some millenial hipster wishing I sat on beanbag chairs and worked at Google. It's just awkward and somewhat condescending or needlessly flattering to get these overly formal responses. Just talk to me like a normal (yet respectful) person, not some timid weirdo.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:54 am to
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I'm not using slang or including emojis. I'm communicating in a way normal people usually communicate. All execs I know do the exact same thing so I don't give a damn if someone forwards it on.


Exactly. Email exchanges with a client or an outside consultant is one thing, but for intra-office communication, you're not impressing anyone by structuring your emails like a legal document. People of importance don't communicate that way with each other.

Writing formal emails to coworkers is something I did as an intern because I wanted to be viewed as "professional." I grew out of that and came to realize that you don't have to write that way to still be professional.

I've also noticed that many times it's rednecks or hoodrats that really go out of there way to be overly-formal for no reason. It's like ok, I get it. You want me to think you're intelligent. I got work to do and don't give a shite.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57360 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:55 am to
Emails leave a paper trail and when you write one you should assume your CEO will eventually read it. In some places , "Not sure bro" might be acceptable to your supervisor and/or CEO, but in mine....it isn't.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86692 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:56 am to
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Writing formal emails to coworkers is something I did as an intern because I wanted to be viewed as "professional."


yeah I think it mostly happens with younger employees trying to sound/feel important

eventually you realize that no one cares and if someone does care, its the person that no one likes anyways
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17015 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:58 am to
How about capitalizing every word in a subject title, is that too overly formal?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86692 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:58 am to
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"Not sure bro" might be acceptable to your supervisor and/or CEO, but in mine....it isn't.


this kinds of stuff makes me so glad that I left the micro managed world of big corporate firms to go to a small firm

Posted by tss22h8
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:58 am to
You can't be too careful at the office. There's nothing that will nail your arse to the wall quite like an inappropriate comment in an email.

Have a good day.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:00 am to
In response to: "Hey, is the printer still down?"

Dear Mr. FootballNostradamus,

I regret to inform you that I am unable to provide you with information regarding the printing apparatus that is the subject of your inquiry.

Yours sincerely,
Pecker
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:00 am to
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this kinds of stuff makes me so glad that I left the micro managed world of big corporate firms to go to a small firm



Yeah, it all depends on your preference of life style. Bigger firms usually mean more money but a lot more "stuffy" and less flexibility. A smaller company you probably have more flexibility but the pay isn't the same.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:04 am to
We are all pretty laid back in our inner office emails. I once sent one that was overly formal about the " Inquiring what process is needed to acquire a new cellular communication device". In turn I was scolded for being a smart arse and told that its was not appreciated.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:08 am to
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Emails leave a paper trail and when you write one you should assume your CEO will eventually read it. In some places , "Not sure bro" might be acceptable to your supervisor and/or CEO, but in mine....it isn't


Because there's no middle area, right?

It's either, "Hello, good sir! I will most certainly be available on this fine afternoon to provide any manner of assistance that you deem necessary. With love, Pecker"

or

"frick it. ya i can make the 1:00"
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61700 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:08 am to
I worked for one of the largest companies in the world. If you asked a question no one knew you would prob get back "?"
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:09 am to
Turn your question into a video next time and put it on World Star
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104450 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:09 am to
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How about capitalizing every word in a subject title, is that too overly formal?


Nah man, capitalizing titles is just common fricking decency.

That's what separates us from the animals.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:11 am to
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That's what separates us from the animals.


I guess I missed the memo saying we were no longer animals.
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