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re: Covid19 deaths down 27% from last Monday. (Ignore the troll extragravy)

Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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53839 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:03 pm to
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You are what makes me ashamed to be a millennial

I think Mr P is a college student.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125159 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:04 pm to
What do you think should be done?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32744 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Two months from now, people will still be saying.. but the laggggggg


2 weeeeeeeeekkkksss.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42797 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:04 pm to


But his death numbers are wrong
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2166 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:05 pm to
I read the thread the day it came out and bashed it...I've been keeping my own data for months
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:09 pm to
mandatory masks. open up all. schools move to outside lesson planning and minimal inside contact with each other. old geezers stay away from everyone

btw @mbeckett said similar to this
LINK
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23378 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:10 pm to
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Deaths as well as cases are increasing at a terrible rate in Texas,


Cases, yes. Deaths, absolutely not. 8 weeks ago, deaths per 100000 people was 6. 6 weeks ago it was 8. Today, its 9 deaths per 100000 people. By comparison, NJ and NY are still 171 and 166 respectively.

Where is this terrible increase in TX's death rate?
deaths by state

I truly dont understand why the hyperbole with the death rate from people.

And I'm only speaking of TX, fwiw.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 6:18 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102391 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:12 pm to
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schools move to outside lesson


For so many reasons.

One, it’s fricking hot
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42797 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:12 pm to
6 to 9 is a 50% increase!!!!!! Shut it all down!!!!!! REEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76241 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:17 pm to
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That's a misuse or misunderstanding of the facts. Infections and deaths are not uniform across the US, so the "nationwide death number" is not informative. Deaths as well as cases are increasing at a terrible rate in Texas, Florida, and Arizona (Houston and Miami are particularly terrible).

It's a common fallacy, known as Simpson's Paradox, to "pool" all data which produces a misleading conclusion. If you make the mistake of looking at it as if the whole US is always going in the same direction, you miss the problem.

It's well explained here:

Nah. When literally everyone involved is picking and choosing which data they are going to present for whichever argument they are trying to make, it is all fair game.

When "expert" doctors can't even keep their stats straight from day to day and routinely use cumulative numbers to prop up their opinions, and at times just make up numbers that have no basis in what health departments are reporting, the numbers don't matter at all.

Then, add in a media that refuses to call such "experts" on their bullshite, it just gets old and tiring.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45342 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:22 pm to
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lmao dude I want this shite to be over as much as the next guy.

I don’t believe you.


just want the facts to be out there. according to @mbeckett on Twitter and the Simpsons paradox theory we should be hurting in 7-8 weeks

Wish casting...

Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2166 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:27 pm to
We would have already seen huge jump...11 day lag is the real number
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12798 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:30 pm to
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No he’s just a proponent of shutting everything down until cases are zero.


So he’s never letting us go play with our friends again?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:32 pm to
I know dude.. but I think that better than shutting it all down.

think we have to open schools at any costs. families can't do it. trump is big time right there
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 6:33 pm
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32744 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:33 pm to
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Two months from now, people will still be saying.. but the laggggggg


The bashing on AZ, FL, and TX have been pretty funny.

NY is smaller than Texas and Florida and has 5x the deaths as of last week of them combined.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102391 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:38 pm to
Guidelines they put in place are solid. .. I have no issue with my daughter going back to school.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10399 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:03 am to
Our medical community is learning better treatments, as expected with time.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:50 am to
But mask, can't open up or you will die.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 6:53 am to
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Deaths as well as cases are increasing at a terrible rate in Texas


TEXAS DAILY DEATH RATES, AKA, YOU ARE A LIAR

I watch this shite because I live here
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:10 am to
That is a complete misuse of Simpson’s Paradox.




Comparing national rates/deaths to national rates/deaths over a four month period doesn’t come close to Simpson’s Paradox.
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