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re: Covid19 deaths down 27% from last Monday. (Ignore the troll extragravy)
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:42 am to ExtraGravy
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:42 am to ExtraGravy
Ok gravy.
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:20 am to Mr Perfect
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facts
Pick one
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:23 am to HurricaneTiger
Lol Twitter for facts. Gtfo
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:27 am to ExtraGravy
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That's a misuse or misunderstanding of the facts. Infections and deaths are not uniform across the US, so the "nationwide death number" is not informative. Deaths as well as cases are increasing at a terrible rate in Texas, Florida, and Arizona (Houston and Miami are particularly terrible). It's a common fallacy, known as Simpson's Paradox, to "pool" all data which produces a misleading conclusion. If you make the mistake of looking at it as if the whole US is always going in the same direction, you miss the problem.
Interesting. I guess the CEO of Houston Methodist Hospital (one of the premier hospitals in the world) lied last week in his press conference? That or you’re full of shite.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:29 am to 3nOut
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NY is smaller than Texas and Florida
Kind of an asinine comparison since NYC is the most densely packed city in the US. Something far more important when discussing the spread of a contagious virus. It's the entire reason why NYC was hit harder and faster than Texas or Florida cities.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:30 am to Klark Kent
He just doesn’t understand Simpson’s Paradox. It’s the opposite of what the twitter guy was alleging.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:30 am to Klark Kent
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Interesting. I guess the CEO of Houston Methodist Hospital (one of the premier hospitals in the world) lied last week in his press conference? That or you’re full of shite.
I'm in no way supporting gravy outside of on top of my mashed potatoes, but are we really playing this card after accusing every hospital in the world of falsifying death records for "covid funding"?
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:31 am to TH03
quote:We arent talking the spread, we are talking deaths
Kind of an asinine comparison since NYC is the most densely packed city in the US. Something far more important when discussing the spread of a contagious virus. It's the entire reason why NYC was hit harder and faster than Texas or Florida cities.
NY fricked this up royally, and its more than just being densely packed
texas has 2,700 deaths out of 200,000 cases
New York has 32,000 deaths out of 398,000 cases
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:37 am to lsupride87
NYC and the whole state of Texas have roughly the same amount of cases but NYC has 5-6ish times the deaths. I know old people were being sent back to nursing homes, but I don't think that explains 17k more deaths. I think being more densely packed absolutely makes it easier for the more at risk folk to get and die from it.
What else could there be? Legit question, not smart arse.
What else could there be? Legit question, not smart arse.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:39 am to TH03
quote:Two things
NYC and the whole state of Texas have roughly the same amount of cases but NYC has 5-6ish times the deaths. I know old people were being sent back to nursing homes, but I don't think that explains 17k more deaths. I think being more densely packed absolutely makes it easier for the more at risk folk to get and die from it.
What else could there be? Legit question, not smart arse.
1. NY sending covid patients back to nursing homes. the most batshit retarded thing you can do.
2. Stricter lockdowns actually mean higher death rates, as the healthy/young avoid cases moreso than the sick and old who are in homes/in hospitals
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:42 am to TH03
NYC most likely had exponentially more cases than reported in April and May. But due to lack of testing capabilities, they were unrealized.
That’s probably one of the more significant factors in the deaths per case discrepancy
That’s probably one of the more significant factors in the deaths per case discrepancy
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:43 am to Mr Perfect
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according to @mbeckett on Twitter and the Simpsons paradox theory we should be hurting in 7-8 weeks
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:45 am to Antonio Moss
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NYC most likely had exponentially more cases than reported in April and May. But due to lack of testing capabilities, they were unrealized.
To be fair, this probably applies to Texas too. The state has resorted to including viral and antibody tests in the same "tests per day" figure which skews the entire data set on cases, positivity rate, etc just so they can look like they're testing enough.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:47 am to lsupride87
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2. Stricter lockdowns actually mean higher death rates, as the healthy/young avoid cases moreso than the sick and old who are in homes/in hospitals
That happened here to start. Pretty much all cases were in retirement homes and such until the shutdowns ended. Luckily deaths haven't spiked too much. We're still in the middle of this spike so hopefully the deaths stay lower like that.
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