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re: COVID-19 & Vaccines - History of Corruption, Fraud, Bio-Engineering, & Media Cover-Up

Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

so you are kisatchie and hambones


Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:13 pm to
Retarded is exactly what anyone that thinks COVIDs and its timing with the 2020 Election are coincidental.

Fauci is on the record in 2017 stating that a pandemic would occur during Trump's administration.
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:15 pm to
??? I’m hambones.

To kisatchie:
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83534 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Moderna SEC filing review - Moderna and FDA classify mRNA as “Gene Therapy”


I'll tackle this link because its patently false. The FDA classified "mRNA technology" as "gene therapy".

In the SEC filing, Moderna is saying that their mRNA technology should not be classified as "gene therapy" because of the different mechanism of action. They are complaining that the "gene therapy" label will do exactly what people are currently doing, freaking out about the "gene therapy" label

quote:

Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. Unlike certain gene therapies that irreversibly alter cell DNA and could act as a source of side effects, mRNA-based medicines are designed to not irreversibly change cell DNA; however, side effects observed in gene therapy could negatively impact the perception of mRNA medicines despite the differences in mechanism.


Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11427 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:20 pm to
Well, when you aren't studying about the man made virus that has you worried that you will be made to take a vaccine for (if you haven't yet, you probably won't), you can study on how to properly respond to someone on this board.
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:23 pm to
Test:

Hello. I’m responding to you.
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
1968 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:24 pm to
I said:

quote:

It's hilarious that you'll dismiss the scientific info in the links by straw-manning the sources.


And you proved me right by responding:

quote:

t's not scientific info. It's a bunch of bullshite. The "DARPA papers" in the OP are being pushed by pretty much only Project Veritas and they're laughably bad
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
1968 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:27 pm to
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I'll tackle this link because its patently false. The FDA classified "mRNA technology" as "gene therapy". In the SEC filing, Moderna is saying that their mRNA technology should not be classified as "gene therapy" because of the different mechanism of action.


So let's disregard what a health agency says and go by what the company producing it filed it as on it's Securities Exchange paperwork...
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:28 pm to
Salmon,

I really appreciate your rebuttal. I’m dead serious.

So it’s classified as “gene therapy” and Moderna doesn’t want it to be?

Because this gene therapy doesn’t have the side effects of most other mRNA gene therapies?

I’m not playing dumb here. Just genuinely trying to understand.

I’d rebuttal with my second link in OP related to under/unreported vaccine injuries and side effects.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83534 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:30 pm to
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So let's disregard what a health agency says and go by what the company producing it filed it as on it's Securities Exchange paperwork...


You can do whatever you wish. I give zero shits.

My only point was the Moderna did not classify "mRNA" as "gene therapy", which is what the OP was claiming
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:30 pm to
(and the fact that it is currently classified by the FDA as gene therapy - unless someone has an update on that classification)
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14722 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:31 pm to
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If they can do something like this and screw the world, what else can they do?


This Board
"Government isn't capable of doing a god damn thing"

Also this board
"The US government orchestrated a worldwide pandemic which would require the cooperation of thousands in government and private industry and no one has said a word"
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:32 pm to
Salmon, I updated the link description in the OP thanks to your rebuttal. FDA classifies as gene therapy.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83534 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

So it’s classified as “gene therapy” and Moderna doesn’t want it to be?



Yes. And their justification is that it is an entirely different mechanism of action.

quote:

Because this gene therapy doesn’t have the side effects of most other mRNA gene therapies?


well that's a leading question

They don't want it associated with "gene therapy" due to the negative connotation of "gene therapy" and side effects sometimes associated with gene therapy drugs, which may or may not be associated with mRNA

Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
1968 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:34 pm to
You actually did him a favor.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
10139 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:35 pm to
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Says the most rabid Masked Covidian on this forum


I post once or a twice a day on this board, but you average 7500 posts a year. Maybe you should look in the mirror.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18261 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:35 pm to
I'm not strawmanning anything. I'm saying the "report" has no basis in reality. It's a nonsense report and because of that, it hasn't been picked up by a single reputable outlet.

It says that ivermectin and HCQ work on this "vaccine virus" but somehow, studies have repeatedly found this isn't true.

It straight up says that the US created the virus. Not funded, not helped research; created.

It's a poorly written jumbled up conspiracy theorist rant.
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:38 pm to
It cites testimony/communications from a Major in the USMC. It’s corroborated by others cited in the OP. As also cited, congress people want answers about this information.
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
1968 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:41 pm to
Bro, he doesn't care. He needs "reputable sources" to tell him what to believe. Just give it time and it'll be in corporate news, then rub his face in it.
Posted by hambones
LA
Member since Nov 2014
970 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:42 pm to
Studies show the unique mechanism of action in the vaccine to have inflammatory side effects as cited in the second link.

Here’s a snippet from that second article with sources cited:
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