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re: Court Rules in Pornhub Favor in Finding Texas Age-Verification Law Violates 1st Amendment
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:18 pm to gmac8604
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:18 pm to gmac8604
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Or maybe we all should stop watching porn.
Or maybe folks should just mind their own business and stop utilizing their own moral standards as the standard for everyone else.
If it’s content with consenting adults, it’s not mine or your business if someone wants to watch that content.
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:19 pm to gmac8604
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Or maybe we all should stop watching porn.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:20 pm to gmac8604
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How does age-verification violate the 1st ammendment, specifically regarding the freedom of speech, on a porn site?
Damn too bad we don't have a court opinion written by a federal judge to look at....oh wait
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:21 pm to gmac8604
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Toddlers are not allowed to gamble.
Yes. There are laws that prevent that. Not child labor laws but laws just the same.
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If I teach them to pull a slot machine and give them sweets for hitting trip 7s, then I just paid a minor for their actions.
Creative argument. I’ll allow it just to see how it plays out.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:22 pm to Jake88
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That's Rolling Stone and doesn't answer his question about how age restrictions limiting access limits free speech. What about rated R movies? Same concept.
Well for starters, the government isn’t preventing anyone from watching R-rated movies. In fact, there are no legal requirements to have a film rated in the first place. It’s entirely voluntary, and it’s “enforced” by the MPAA (not the government).
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:26 pm to gmac8604
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Or maybe we all should stop watching porn.
Maybe you should mind your damn business on what consenting adults want to do in the bedroom ehh?
Never mind the very real fact that there is an insane group of religious extremist Republicans who want to ban all forms of birth control.
This kind of law will 100% lead to demands for ID verification from people who want to look up something like where to get condoms or IUD info so they can create a database of birth control users, which again, is something they want to fricking criminalize.
Trying to hide behind "protect the children" w/this law is pathetic. If parents don't want their kids looking at porn they can do things to block websites and monitor what they look at on their own time.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:27 pm to stout
Don’t they have this law in Louisiana as well?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:31 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:How is that an infringement on speech? The pornographer is still allowed their "speech."
Having to enter things like your license information and other identifying information into a database that could be used by the government (the key here) to track your adult content consumption is where it infringes.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:33 pm to thejuiceisloose
quote:Because federal judicial opinions are never wrong or overturned.
Damn too bad we don't have a court opinion written by a federal judge to look at....oh wait
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:34 pm to lostinbr
quote:Good point. That was a poor analogy.
Well for starters, the government isn’t preventing anyone from watching R-rated movies. In fact, there are no legal requirements to have a film rated in the first place. It’s entirely voluntary, and it’s “enforced” by the MPAA (not the government)
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:36 pm to Jim Rockford
My friend wants to know if he still needs a VPN.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:40 pm to Dr RC
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This kind of law will 100% lead to demands for ID verification from people who want to look up something like where to get condoms or IUD info so they can create a database of birth control users, which again, is something they want to fricking criminalize
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:43 pm to Jake88
Honestly I wouldve thought this would fit under the privacy act.
It's one thing to be ID'd when you're in the public buying beer/entering a bar/etc.
It's an entire different thing to be ID'd in the privacy of your own home for doing something completely legal
It's one thing to be ID'd when you're in the public buying beer/entering a bar/etc.
It's an entire different thing to be ID'd in the privacy of your own home for doing something completely legal
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:45 pm to High C
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Wait, Pornhub sued to ensure that little kids would have access to porn?
Now Big Tobacco can revive Joe Camel.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:47 pm to stout
quote:Matt is right
Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
This is insane. Every adult oriented product has age verification requirements. But if the same basic standard is applied to internet porn suddenly it’s a First Amendment violation?
muh freedom though
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:49 pm to Jake88
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That's Rolling Stone and doesn't answer his question about how age restrictions limiting access limits free speech. What about rated R movies? Same concept.
Better analogy is online gambling. Age restricted product/service, perfectly legal for adults, regulation on an activity you're doing from the privacy of your home, a data breach is possible...
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:51 pm to Corinthians420
quote:Yeah, I don't see it as a speech issue.
Honestly I wouldve thought this would fit under the privacy act
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:52 pm to Jake88
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Jake88
You can laugh all you want. Republicans like Paul Gosar are now openly saying they want to ban birth control. Clarence Thomas flat out said the case that made birth control legal all across the country should be overturned.
Your head is in the sand if you think they wouldn't use this to go after people who tried to get birth control in a state they were able to ban it in.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:53 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Having to enter things like your license information and other identifying information into a database that could be used by the government (the key here) to track your adult content consumption is where it infringes.
It sounds to me the only recourse is to ban porn altogether and treat it like prostitution.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:58 pm to Dr RC
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A person should not be forced to put their fricking ID into a site just b/c a bunch of dumb arse parents don't know how to monitor their kid's internet activity.
Are you ashamed of your porn?
You are forced to show your ID to a clerk or greeter going into similar places or even buy alcohol. Is that ok because parents don’t know how to monitor their kids’ physical locations or drinking activity?
I think businesses should follow same rules and taxes regardless of being online or not. If it’s ok to ask for age verification at a physical location than it’s long past the time big tech could have come up with a verification process that a person is 18 or older. The honor system doesn’t work for social media and kids. Things like screen time get hacked easily by kids on top of just Apple’s crappy software. We can submit taxes online, check health records, authentication apps, and so on; but verifying being 18 or older is unsolvable??? BS, big tech profits on kids lying about their age.
It probably would have been a little easier if the US still controlled the TLD process, but it doesn’t.
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