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re: Cost to buy = $2,700/month. Cost to rent = $1,850/month

Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:38 am to
Posted by tigersmanager
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:38 am to
this is caused by democrat leadership and their policies anyone not realizing that is a Groomer
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:38 am to
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I imagine they weren't voting for too many Republicans back in the day



Im GenX (born in 79 so barely GenX) and turned 18 in November of my senior year. Registered and voted Republican from the start and no GenX I know ever dressed like this





It was Abercrombie, Docs, Lucky jeans, etc. GenX was overall conservative and still is.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 11:39 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:38 am to
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Yes, but they existed for long enough that now a huge portion of owners are locked in at sub 4% rates, so the resulting distortion of home values can last literally decades and possibly become permanent.

what?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465765 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:39 am to
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This has been going on for multiple election cycles over decades.


What boomers voted for 40 years ago is coming home to roost today. Millennials simply haven't voted long enough to have that large of an effect and contrary to popular belief young people generally don't turn out in big numbers.

AS with the financial situation, they will also not admit this. Millennials aren't even in power. Boomers and old Gen X are in power.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:40 am to
Groomers are the only ones dressing like that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:40 am to
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Cheap money has in fact been a bipartisan policy since 2008.


Also there is this:



Trump printed a couple extra trillion. I'm sure that has had no impact on inflation or the money supply.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:41 am to
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People need to live within their means.

Most people do not.

This creates a problem.
The problem is a lot of peoples' "means" are significantly lower than they have been at any time in the last 70 years.

Prices and interest rates are going up while salaries are staying the same (or not rising proportionally to the increase in prices.)
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:41 am to
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How long do you think the housing market can handle 7% mortgage rates? Mortgage applications are way down


These are the kind of things you read when interest rates have been kept artificially low for 20-30+ years....

Believe it or not people bought/sold houses at a time when 7% was considered a good rate. Houses were a lot cheaper then too. That's what's going to happen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465765 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:41 am to
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this is caused by democrat leadership and their policies anyone not realizing that is a Groomer

Want me to discuss the spending increases under Reagan, GWB, and Trump?
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:42 am to
this chart is so fricking fake you dumbasses believe anything cnn puts out
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:42 am to
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Times have changed and it's worse for youths. Yes, the goods are generally better (other than the albatross in college), but that doesn't make up the full difference.


People have to stop paying high dollar for college degrees that don’t lead to high paying jobs.

Go to the lowest level university to check the box and get into the workforce should be the goal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465765 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:43 am to
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this chart is so fricking fake


At least use one of the memes like "muh veto proof" and don't just deny reality, bubba.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:43 am to
How is that fake?
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
9214 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:43 am to
want to discuss the amount biden has spent?
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:44 am to
Why are there so many succesful millenials and zoomers if serfdom is so prevalent? One of, and to me, the most important factor is the successful ones seem to have a total abstinence from whine.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
9214 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:44 am to
the numbers are not correct
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:44 am to
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The rent figure is going to explode, too once landlords get their insurance renewals… the current increased slope of the rental line is steeper than at any point on that graph



I don't understand that assumption. If you as the owner could charge more than you were that was a mistake. There shouldn't be much more you can charge since you should have already been priced to optimize profit.

The costs for the owner are often not similar to the costs for the renter. This is often to the owner's benefit if they have a low interest loan and the property has appreciated (while the property is rented out).

But people are too sanguine about the possibility of the reverse. Insurance, property taxes, uncovered damage, management expenses, renters who lose jobs and stop making payments can all turn a profitable property into dead weight.

Investment properties were some of the most likely to end up in foreclosure in the last crisis. You can't collect rent from people without money.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
10274 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:45 am to
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People need to live within their means.

Most people do not.

This creates a problem.


The issue is most people can't afford to anymore. The median family income in the US is just under $71k.

Take the 2.5 income for a mortgage rule - the median US family can afford a mortgage of 177k. 20% gets you to a home value of 212k.

There's not many places in the US where you can afford a family home for 212k. So, if people want to afford a home they essentially have to spend above their means.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
179369 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:45 am to
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Believe it or not people bought/sold houses at a time when 7% was considered a good rate


Been in RE since 2001. I know but again you guys are comparing apples to oranges. Wage growth has failed to keep up with house price appreciation by large gaps. That ground will not be made up overnight.


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Houses were a lot cheaper then too. That's what's going to happen.



New houses didn't have the code standards we do now. Houses can only get so cheap when codes force additional costs. The IBC could stand to lose probably a good 30-40% of the BS.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465765 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:45 am to
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People have to stop paying high dollar for college degrees that don’t lead to high paying jobs.

The problem is that you're not going to get many pathways to the upper middle class (especially in urban areas) without a degree. The demand for degrees is still there.

Kids can certainly choose better, but the ones who pick easy degrees, MOST of the time, can't get the good ones.

So the reality is we just have too many colleges and give out too many degrees, but the problem with that is you're basically stratifying society in a major way. In America it's against our psyche and people always think THEY are going to be the exception to the rule and be the underdog who makes it (typed with Rocky's theme music playing)
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