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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:55 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 3/21/20 at 9:55 am to Pettifogger
I understand the concern of pushing the hospitals beyond capacity, but at what cost are we willing to do that? Are hospitals going to expand their critical care units after all of this? I doubt it.
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:00 am to SabiDojo
The whole “virus now, economy later” logic seems to be what everyone is going with right now.
Even Trump said it.
Maybe they are right and we are wrong, but man, it seems like a huge gamble to take. I hope they are right though. I really do.
Even Trump said it.
Maybe they are right and we are wrong, but man, it seems like a huge gamble to take. I hope they are right though. I really do.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:02 am to Salmon
The more data that comes in, the more it seems like this didn’t deserve the reaction it has caused.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:03 am to Salmon
Is no one looking at the numbers? 
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:05 am to Salmon
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Maybe they are right and we are wrong, but man, it seems like a huge gamble to take. I hope they are right though. I really do.
I have no way to gauge what hospitals and such are saying via third parties, but if that stuff is generally accurate then I think it's pretty unquestionable that this is serious and required serious measures. If we're already strained with PPE and ICU beds and whatever then I imagine that would be much worse if the numbers were a magnitude worse.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:05 am to Salmon
Hopefully they're wrong, and the virus turns out to not really be shite. Unfortunately itll be next year before we actually know.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I don’t want economies to crash and they were wrong.
That’s why I hope they are right.
That’s why I hope they are right.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:13 am to Salmon
Reality is you'll never get a clear answer. Hopefully the numbers will favor one side (the naysayers) and the on the ground stories will favor the other and you'll just have to decide what you think.
I've got infection control specialists/public health people in my family so every time something happened in Africa or China I heard about. I know people don't want to hear it because of the economic damage, but I think this is an experience the country probably needed if it wants any chance to avoid a genuine catastrophe in the future.
This is the first real pandemic in American modernity. Honestly this is hopefully the closest we'll have to a true societal breakdown/collapse in our lifetimes, and there will be enormously valuable lessons for those who want to learn from this saga.
I've got infection control specialists/public health people in my family so every time something happened in Africa or China I heard about. I know people don't want to hear it because of the economic damage, but I think this is an experience the country probably needed if it wants any chance to avoid a genuine catastrophe in the future.
This is the first real pandemic in American modernity. Honestly this is hopefully the closest we'll have to a true societal breakdown/collapse in our lifetimes, and there will be enormously valuable lessons for those who want to learn from this saga.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:14 am to Pettifogger
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This is the first real pandemic in American modernity.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:14 am to ell_13
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This is the first real pandemic in American modernity.
Shhhhh
Your schtick is well known
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:17 am to Pettifogger
The fricking common cold is a “real” pandemic. As is the flu. As was Ebola. As was swine. And they’re all still out there. Ffs. Be less dramatic when trying to be clever. It’ll be more genuine.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:18 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The damage has already been done. We’ve lowered the bar. You trust the media and the experts to responsibly report the next “pandemic”?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:18 am to ell_13
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The fricking common cold is a “real” pandemic. As is the flu. As was Ebola. As was swine. And they’re all still out there. Ffs. Be less dramatic when trying to be clever. It’ll be more genuine.
Pardon me but I'm gonna ignore the dude who has spent the last 2 weeks and 800 pages getting dunked on
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:19 am to Pettifogger
Ignore the person and not the post. Solid response when you’ve been called out as a fool. 
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:21 am to ell_13
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Ignore the person and not the post. Solid response when you’ve been called out as a fool.
"Ebola was an American pandemic"
narrator: we had 11 cases
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:24 am to Pettifogger
American pandemic is a whole new word you just created.
Look up oxymoron and that’s what an “American pandemic” is.
Look up oxymoron and that’s what an “American pandemic” is.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:25 am to ell_13
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American pandemic is a whole new word you just created.
It's a term or a phrase, actually
But I'll definitely get my epidemiology input from this guy
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:26 am to ell_13
Ell, good to see you posting. How you feeling?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:28 am to Lion4Life
100%. Woke up without a cough. Gonna try and get some yard work done.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:29 am to SabiDojo
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The damage has already been done. We’ve lowered the bar. You trust the media and the experts to responsibly report the next “pandemic”?
if they are wrong and they crush the economy, yeah, nobody will take them seriously next time
if they are wrong, and we don't see real numbers, it will unfortunately turn into a "boy who cried wolf" situation and will be disastrous if/when a real one hits
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