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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/19/20 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 1:57 pm to
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BREAKING: @LouisianaGov says on a phone call with Donald Trump and other governors that modeling shows Louisiana could exceed its healthcare capacity in 7 days, asks feds for more resources. #lalege #lagov


Lockdown starting this weekend makes sense
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 1:59 pm to
At what point are you going to stop spreading rumors
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Lockdown starting this weekend makes sense


goddammit
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:02 pm to
Nah.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:07 pm to
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Lockdown starting this weekend makes sense


Many more tests have been run this week. Let's see what the numbers look like as the reports start coming in tomorrow. If the newer test results show continued increase in positive results, I think that you are correct, especially for New Orleans.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:11 pm to
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I’m arguing it’s ridiculous to shut things down to the extent Louisiana has. You want to shut down sports and mass gatherings for two weeks fine. I can deal with that. But these 30 day shutdowns of small businesses are absolutely incredibly stupid


It’s literally what’s flattened the curve here in Kentucky compared to Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, etc.

Or course people here are legitimately adhering to it. And it probably helps that our Governor has updated daily and addressed it like he has some sense.

Some of y’all just need to limit your shite instead of trying to be contrarians.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:19 pm to
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At what point are you going to stop spreading rumors


I’m saying it makes sense to me. I have absolutely no information on that. Not even rumors.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:21 pm to
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If the newer test results show continued increase in positive results,


of course it is, its making its wave through the area.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:21 pm to
What has Kentucky done differently from Ohio? And how many tests has Kentucky given compared to Ohio? The commute between Northern Kentucky. Boone,Kenton, and Campbell into Cincy and the Commute from Cincinnati into Northern Kentucky is pretty substantial. Really curious as to what Kentucky imposed that Ohio did not and when?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:24 pm to
I think we will try a round of this lockdown. The hospitals will get a breath of air then we will open things up and the cases will spike again. At that point I think people will say frick it. If you want to stay home do it but we are going back to work. I believe that will continue until the hospitals get overwhelmed and the stories start coming out of rationing of care. Where we go from there no one knows, hopefully by that time we have found a treatment.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:25 pm to
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I’m saying it makes sense to me. I have absolutely no information on that. Not even rumors.


Why does it make sense? Social distancing effects havent even been factored into these numbers yet.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:27 pm to
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What has Kentucky done differently from Ohio? And how many tests has Kentucky given compared to Ohio? The commute between Northern Kentucky. Boone,Kenton, and Campbell into Cincy and the Commute from Cincinnati into Northern Kentucky is pretty substantial. Really curious as to what Kentucky imposed that Ohio did not and when?
Yea, didnt Ohio implement the bar/restaurant ban before anybody else? They also were the first state to do drive thru testing.

Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:28 pm to
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What has Kentucky done differently from Ohio? And how many tests has Kentucky given compared to Ohio?

I don't think Kentucky has done anything different. In fact, Ohio has consistently been pretty aggressive in their measures.

They have not been releasing the actual number of tests performed or the number of negatives so it is hard to read much into the numbers. One thing that has remained consistent has been that the number of hospitalizations has stayed around 20%-25% of the number of positives. There is obviously some bias in there, but it has at least hovered around that mark as the cases have climbed.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:30 pm to
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Why does it make sense? Social distancing effects havent even been factored into these numbers yet.


What numbers? The number of infected? That’s completely inaccurate. We have no idea how many infections there are.

The only thing that matters is how full the ICUs are and I think we are in very dangerous territory because the disease doesn’t get bad until 10-14 days later. So not knowing the real number of infections out there puts you at risk to get rushed and by the time you act it’s too late.

Just the way I see it.
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:31 pm to
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Can you explain why Italy, China, and South Korea haven’t been overrun like this in other bad flu season? Or even come close to this level?


“CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza”

That’s the just the US. You figure most of the flu season spans October- March (besides outliers) thats 5,700 deaths per month and we have 1 billion less people than China. Corona killed what 3300 over the last two months combined?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49558 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Hmm but from reading the board, we should ignore the fact that 80-85,000 out of 1.4 billion in china got infected strictly due to quarantines and not maybe because it doesn’t spread as easily as once thought


For the thousandth time way more than that got infected. And yes their strict quarantine worked...at least for now/


And there was an epicenter in China which makes it easier to contain. This is not the case in the US or other countries.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:37 pm to
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“CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza”


I’m not sure what you are trying to say. How many went to ICU? How many ventilated?

But let’s just get down to the point. Do you care if the ICUs become saturated and we can treat critical patients that need to be treated?

If you answer no that’s fine, I get that everyone has a different opinion. But that’s the only way your do nothing approach makes any logical sense.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:40 pm to
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bad until 10-14 days later.


My head hurts -- where are with in the time frame? I'm so confused. Of course it seems like this has been going on FOREVER.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:45 pm to
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My head hurts -- where are with in the time frame? I'm so confused. Of course it seems like this has been going on FOREVER.


There is no timeframe. It’s a rolling wave.

Even if you stopped all interaction immediately right now the amount of critical cases will continue to increase for probably 2 weeks because the newly diagnosed cases need time to progress to critical.

Not knowing how many infections are out there means that you don’t have a great idea of how big that wave is that’s coming. That’s why I think they will act more conservatively and probably start quarantine sooner than people think is appropriate. Just a guess.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79518 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:47 pm to
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The only thing that matters is how full the ICUs are and I think we are in very dangerous territory because the disease doesn’t get bad until 10-14 days later. So not knowing the real number of infections out there puts you at risk to get rushed and by the time you act it’s too late.


Well wouldn't it be too late to do anything since we are already at least 7 days in, if not more?

There is at least a 7 day lag behind whatever we do.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 2:47 pm
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