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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46146 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:12 pm to
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No other country is even close to what is happening there

Yeah corona must really like Italian food because it’s not like Italy is remote from other European countries. But context doesn’t matter and we’re totally doomed like Italy no matter what!
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:13 pm to
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Good luck on that. We’ve only known for almost 200 years that hand washing helps prevent the spread of illnesses and many people still ignore it.


My son used to be obsessive about hand washing. Fact is, Kid’s don’t have time to go to the bathroom and their lockers between classes. He was never sick until middle school but now he’s sick twice a year and dehydrated. It’s been brought to the school board multiple times that there needs to be time for kids to refill water bottles and wash their hands in between classes. The UTI rates are through the roof starting in middle school, too. No time for the bathroom.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:14 pm to
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It only works if it’s a nationwide shut down and that idea blows my mind.


Well I guess you have to consider the alternative which is sick people being denied basic medical care. It does seem so crazy then. Maybe we get some stroke of luck and the weather slows the cases down I don’t know, it just seems inevitable at this point.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85108 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:14 pm to
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There is like a 2-3% difference in the US and Italy’s population portion in the high risk demograp


Then last data I saw was wrong... Italy 25% elderly, US 15%.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53472 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:15 pm to
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Some connected sources have told me that New Orleans is considering an Italy-like "lockdown" that would commence at 5 p.m. on Monday. Not trying to start a panic or guarantee anything, but take it for what it's worth.


I think it’s unlikely, unless things are a lot worse than being reported.


The first city based lockdowns will be in Washington/Oregon IMO.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9037 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:15 pm to
Yeah but we’re way fatter
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9037 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 pm to
I mean assuming the city as advisors analyzing data the same way as you and Wawa, it seems like Nola will soon be leading the nation in per capita cases. We’re heavily at risk to be the most like Italy if we don’t act now
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 pm to
I've never seriously thought we'd see lock downs like overseas but the last few days are starting to change my mind. One thing that is interesting is that in Europe and China we've typically seen one massive cluster (Wuhan/Lombardy) and the rest of the provinces would more or less "escape" with only smaller outbreaks. It seems here in the states there are more than one cluster forming and across different areas.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53472 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 pm to
The difference might not be factual.



My number is based on US citizens over the age of 60.

How is your number designed? What is “elderly?”
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 pm to
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I think it’s unlikely, unless things are a lot worse than being reported.


You also have to consider who is running the ship. Latoya seems to do the unexpected, over react, and shoot from the hip.

I.e. banning all tandem floats
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:18 pm to
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Then last data I saw was wrong... Italy 25% elderly, US 15%.



I found over 65 population in the US is 14.9% and Italy is 23.8%.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:18 pm to
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Almost a given in my opinion. The question of containment is gone, and the hope for case tracing serving as a mitigation mechanism is almost gone as well.

I really hoped I was overreacting to the business planning I’ve seen.
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I am personally preparing on the assumption we are going to be given a directive to stay at home for the month of April and I’m making sure mine are covered in event it happens.

Jesus. I was hoping 2 weeks would be enough to get our arms around it. There’s a real concern within businesses that it onky takes 1 employee or customer to shut everything down. They almost need this to be a state or federal directive that includes payment of employee wages in order to survive this with loss of sales, too.
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Note that I don’t nesscessarily think it will happen because the situation warranted it, but just like the aftermath of the NBA suspension, you’ll get a domino effect of pressure from the optics of it.

I think pressure is what lead to the county shutdowns we’ve seen in DFW area through April. Im hoping we can take a step back from the ledge on any more long term (month+) shut downs but that seems to be the way things are moving.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53472 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:19 pm to
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It only works if it’s a nationwide shut down and that idea blows my mind.


The federal courts will be attacked with suits seeking an injunction because technically it’s unconstitutional.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85108 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:20 pm to
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My number is based on US citizens over the age of 60.


65 and older = 15% of the US population
65 and older = 23% of the Italy population


According to google search
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:20 pm to
Even in the case of a national emergency?
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:20 pm to
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I think it’s unlikely, unless things are a lot worse than being reported.


The first city based lockdowns will be in Washington/Oregon IMO.

I don't think it will be as severe as Italy's current lockdown. They went in stages. I wouldn't be surprised if you saw something like Hoboken just did and suspend the sale of alcohol in bars and possibly institute a curfew. Basically measures to push towards people from gathering in large groups.

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The federal courts will be attacked with suits seeking an injunction because technically it’s unconstitutional.


It's not unconstitutional.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85108 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:21 pm to
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I found over 65 population in the US is 14.9% and Italy is 23.8%.


Same thing I just posted... Although I said 15 and 23... So slanted more toward it being closer than it actually is.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:22 pm to
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I've never seriously thought we'd see lock downs like overseas but the last few days are starting to change my mind. One thing that is interesting is that in Europe and China we've typically seen one massive cluster (Wuhan/Lombardy) and the rest of the provinces would more or less "escape" with only smaller outbreaks. It seems here in the states there are more than one cluster forming and across different areas.


Americans travel a lot. Look at the images from DFW and O’Hare tonight.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:23 pm to
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The federal courts will be attacked with suits seeking an injunction because technically it’s unconstitutional.

I will have to go read the act more thoroughly but I seriously thought it can be done when a National State of Emergency was declared.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85108 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Americans travel a lot. Look at the images from DFW and O’Hare tonight.



Not compared to the rest of the world though. If you look the number of Americans with passports is low compared to other countries.
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