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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:43 pm to Poker_hog
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:43 pm to Poker_hog
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Doctors warn coronavirus carriers may show no symptoms of illness CAT scan showed coronavirus on 10-year-old Shenzhen boy’s lungs even though he had no outward signs of infection Strict quarantine is ‘crucial’ to containing outbreak
LINK
No idea on the veracity of this claim, but it doesn’t sound good. The screening won’t be very effective if that is the case.
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:48 pm to CivilTiger83
It's accurate, I posted it last night.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:59 pm to GEAUXmedic
One other takeaway from that SerpantZA YouTube video is they said that China reports that for the flu in a typical year they have something like 100 deaths and a couple hundred thousand cases?!? If the US has tens of thousands of deaths from the flu every year you know that they underreport a lot of these types of numbers.
At this point I think we have to assume the numbers are much worse than they are letting on. 60 deaths wouldn’t warrant the type of response and hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in economic impact they are incurring by trying to quarantine and shut down travel.
At this point I think we have to assume the numbers are much worse than they are letting on. 60 deaths wouldn’t warrant the type of response and hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in economic impact they are incurring by trying to quarantine and shut down travel.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:03 pm to tiger91
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Like tent “buildings” or “a real building”??
The Chinese are heavily into pre-engineered prebuilt buildings. Often when they do something like this, there's a factory somewhere cranking out the building modules while the site is being prepared. They'll truck the pieces in and put it together like a giant 3D jigsaw puzzle.
So, for a hospital, they may have designed a hall module, an isolation module, an entry module, administration module, and so on way ahead of time. They all join together at the edges in roughly the same manner so the crews onsite need a minimum of training to assemble it. Then when they need a structure built fast, they just order the factory to pull up the plans and build however many of each module they need and basically snap them together onsite and haul the furniture in and they're ready to go.
It's somewhat similar to how large ships are built. You build a piece of the ship with all the plumbing, electrial conduits, etc. built into it, in a shop, then you bring it out to the yard and weld it to the piece next to it at the seam where they meet.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:04 pm to TigerstuckinMS
I'd love to see a time lapse but that may be asking too much 
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:05 pm to Konkey Dong
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28 days later
North Korea realizes they are the only people left on the earth
Sometimes it's good to be a hermit.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:06 pm to MickeyLikesDags21
There's one on twitter somewhere of just the digging. There are so many going so fast it reminds me of ants building a mound
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:07 pm to BuckyCheese
LINK
For those that are interested to see what those two new hospitals may look like. This is the SARS hospital that they built.
For those that are interested to see what those two new hospitals may look like. This is the SARS hospital that they built.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:13 pm to CivilTiger83
I’ve heard a lot about an asymptotic period with A viral shedding period of 24-48 hours.
But I find it really questionable to claim that a person can have infection to the point it is visible on body scans but no outward symptoms.
No shortness of breath or coughing even?
It sounds like more self feeding fear mongering.
They are 100% correct though: if a truest bad outbreak happens and you are in fear of infection, the key is the ability to remain in complete isolation. No grocery trips for weeks
But I find it really questionable to claim that a person can have infection to the point it is visible on body scans but no outward symptoms.
No shortness of breath or coughing even?
It sounds like more self feeding fear mongering.
They are 100% correct though: if a truest bad outbreak happens and you are in fear of infection, the key is the ability to remain in complete isolation. No grocery trips for weeks
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:13 pm to CivilTiger83
Another thing that surprises me is no update on the body count/number of infections. It seems like yesterday we received almost hourly updates on the mortality count. The last update was 20 hours ago. Xi said today it was accelerating - which is pretty severe language to use - and no update on the body count.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:15 pm to Volvagia
Some sources cite up to a 14-day incubation period with no symptoms till the last 2-3.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:16 pm to BallsEleven
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There's one on twitter somewhere of just the digging. There are so many going so fast it reminds me of ants building a mound
It looks like a publicity stunt... I saw like 50 excavators and like 3 dump trucks?!? That doesn’t make any sense.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:17 pm to CivilTiger83
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:20 pm to CivilTiger83
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Another thing that surprises me is no update on the body count/number of infections. It seems like yesterday we received almost hourly updates on the mortality count. The last update was 20 hours ago
It’s 4 am in Wuhan. It’ll be another 4-5 hours
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:20 pm to CivilTiger83
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One other takeaway from that SerpantZA YouTube video is they said that China reports that for the flu in a typical year they have something like 100 deaths and a couple hundred thousand cases?!? If the US has tens of thousands of deaths from the flu every year you know that they underreport a lot of these types of numbers.
At this point I think we have to assume the numbers are much worse than they are letting on. 60 deaths wouldn’t warrant the type of response and hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in economic impact they are incurring by trying to quarantine and shut down travel.
Confirmation bias.
You hear something that indicates the rate is no where near the US one.
You immediately take this to assume they are deliberately fudging their numbers.
When in reality it’s highly likely it’s just a case of urban/rural reporting.
The vast majority of flu deaths simply do not see a medical professional and do not get formally classified.
The difference? That underreporting is modellable and factored into current assessments. It doesn’t automatically mean “the death rate is sooo much higher than they are telling us!”
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:22 pm to CivilTiger83
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One other takeaway from that SerpantZA YouTube video is they said that China reports that for the flu in a typical year they have something like 100 deaths and a couple hundred thousand cases?!? If the US has tens of thousands of deaths from the flu every year you know that they underreport a lot of these types of numbers.
The US includes death from pneumonia that was preceded by the flu. China doesn't in typical reporting.
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At this point I think we have to assume the numbers are much worse than they are letting on. 60 deaths wouldn’t warrant the type of response and hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in economic impact they are incurring by trying to quarantine and shut down travel.
What do you think the numbers really are? Throw out a number.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:24 pm to Burhead
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For those that are interested to see what those two new hospitals may look like. This is the SARS hospital that they built.
A hospital that was also built in 6 days. It's super impressive.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:31 pm to Volvagia
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You hear something that indicates the rate is no where near the US one.
You immediately take this to assume they are deliberately fudging their numbers.
When in reality it’s highly likely it’s just a case of urban/rural reporting.
Disagree. I am saying if they do such a poor job tracking deaths from the common flu, do you expect them to be on top of deaths that are happening to elderly outside of the hospital? It doesn’t even have to be purposeful to be underreported.
They stated on the video that someone on Weibo said they had symptoms, were stopped by police and told to go home (which was in another province).
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:34 pm to CivilTiger83
I cant remember the country, but 3 of the 4 cases are related family members. Just think about all these people out mingling the last two weeks, now they are restricted to the city and their homes.
The link I posted above believes the food market is an after the fact excuse and more than likely not the culprit.
The link I posted above believes the food market is an after the fact excuse and more than likely not the culprit.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 2:37 pm to Volvagia
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But I find it really questionable to claim that a person can have infection to the point it is visible on body scans but no outward symptoms.
The majority of adults have gallstones. Most never have an attack.
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