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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74225 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:44 pm to
He DID NOT claim the virus is a hoax tonight. He claimed that dem claims about his admin’s handling of it was a hoax. Important difference.

Here is will satelan, a hardcore trump hater, even saying that isn’t what he said



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Will Saletan
@saletan
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Trump is a liar, a terrible president, and a terrible human being. The claim that he's done a bad job of preparing for and responding to this threat is not a hoax. It's true.

But it's not true that he called the virus, or the danger it poses, a hoax. That's a misinterpretation.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 7:10 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74225 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:46 pm to
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I hope Pence does the right thing.


Hopefully


I don’t remember her name, but he appointed someone yesterday to a key role and it was met with widespread praise.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:46 pm to
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We will see reports of like 2-5 more community based cases over the next week, then the week after in a 48 hour span it will go from like 5 to 500.


That’ll be a feat, especially given that each test requires multiple slots.


Gentlemen, start your thermal cyclers!
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:47 pm to
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Take it to the Poliboard. This thread does not need to devolve into political bullshite.


We rely on our government in times like these to produce facts. Typically this wouldn't be political. Now? Yeah.

That said, I'll stay out of this thread because I appreciate you, and probably others, wanting to keep the thread on track for updates only.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:00 pm to
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Take it to the Poliboard.


Holy shite I just glanced over there. I liked that place and agreed with most of what is said there but this issue has opened my mind to what an echo chamber that is. They think this is a media conspiracy to get Trump and it’s all fake news . I’m kind of shocked. Makes me wonder if this is what it’s like to believe in climate change and go to the poli board.

It’s crazy how people can see one event so differently
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85145 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:20 am to
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Every time I get on here, there are two or three more people making end of humanity/apocalypse porn predictions.


Welcome to the thread...


Realists about likely end game vs hopefuls for the apocalypse, so they can say “told you so”

Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:36 am to
The funny thing is that it’s actually been here for weeks and we are arguing over semantics.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85145 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:37 am to
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The funny thing is that it’s actually been here for weeks and we are arguing over semantics.



Been here over a month. The first few cases in Chicago and the likes were mid-January
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:41 am to
I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant been here uncontrolled as opposed to the tracked cases up front.

But anyway....that’s the point. If this is hitting people hard, it wouldn’t be able to hide within a mild flu season so easily.

The only people who need to worry are the older crew, ~55-60+. That appears to be were most of the clinical deviation between flu and here is occurring, pending investigation of WTF this reinfection claims are all about.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11941 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:47 am to
Couple questions for you kind souls.

Read yesterday where the Mortality rate outside of china is 1.5%.....

1) hows this compare against a typical influenza season in the us
2) what is china's "reported" mortality rate this far

No reading 300+ pages to catch up...just cant do it sorry. My free OT time is currently dedicated to finding bribe material on admins to rescue the ronnie thread.

TIA
Decoco

Edit: for your troubles

This post was edited on 2/29/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85145 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:48 am to
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The only people who need to worry are the older crew, ~55-60+.


I’ve been saying that from day 1... aside from a few abnormalities like the doc in Wuhan, this thing has targeted the same susceptible group as the flu.

I asked earlier and did t get a response, does every country deal with widespread flu like we do here? e.g. 20k deaths and mass infections
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20366 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:49 am to
The New England journal of medicine states this bullshite is no worse than the flu ??????
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:51 am to
Japanese think the number of reported flu deaths in the US are really weird and they don’t understand it. Their annual total is like double digits I think.

But that’s just because the US reports pneumonia and flu deaths together and Japan doesn’t report flu deaths if they are caused by something brought on by the flu.

So US are inflated and Japan’s are deflated. I guess it might be hard to know what the real numbers are because if that.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85145 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:53 am to
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The New England journal of medicine states this bullshite is no worse than the flu ??????


From a contagious point, it may be... we really don’t know

Same from a mortality rate, looks like it may be more than the common flu, but it’s no where near where the panic in this thread claimed it was 2-3 weeks ago.

Sounds like sub 2% mortality in developed countries and going lower.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:54 am to
Yes.

Worldwide it’s attached to between 300k and 650k deaths annually

Average US death toll is around 60k though.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85145 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:56 am to
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So US are inflated and Japan’s are deflated. I guess it might be hard to know what the real numbers are because if that.


Reason I ask, and I’m no scientist by any means, but could the fact that most US citizens come in contact with Flu at some point in their life help build up immune systems to help fight this off or even squash symptoms?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13347 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:56 am to
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Read yesterday where the Mortality rate outside of china is 1.5%..

Reads some of Scruffy's posts (He's an MD). Basically they're only testing the people who are really, really sick to get that 1.5%. In fact, lots of people come down with the virus, get sick, and then get well without ever being tested. Also, lots of people get the virus and are completely without symptoms.

So, if we tested every single person who had it, the actual mortality rate would be less than half of one percent. And probably even lower than that. Maybe as low as .1%. Which is getting down into common flu territory.

The biggest issue with this virus is that it appears to be highly contagious. And it may be deadlier than common flus and other respiratory pathogens. But it's not gonna wipe out the world.

Also: it likes it cold and dry. Not warm. Not wet. So where Beijing and Tehran and Moscow and Kabul could be hit hard, the billions of people on this planet that live in subtropical climates, plus desert climates, will probably not be effected.
Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1846 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:59 am to
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I'm not saying there is nothing to this and there is no concern. I'm saying the entire hysteria is being concocted and it should be transparent to all.


Hysteria where? In Italy? In Japan? In China? In Iran? In Korea?

I live in PA. There is no hysteria. No one is walking around in masks. Grocery stores are fully stocked (no empty milk/bread shelves). No lines for gas. Everything is normal.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71172 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 6:59 am to
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Everything is normal.


I guess you haven't been paying attention to the stock market.

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