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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:00 am to
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:00 am to
I’m reading it right that they actually died in Wuhan right?
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:01 am to
Yes. The first Japanese citizen just died in Wuhan as well
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:03 am to
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I’m reading it right that they actually died in Wuhan right?


Yes he was just diagnosed yesterday.
Posted by Jarlaxle
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 3:22 am to






Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20864 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:02 am to
Tin foil hat time.

This shite was created by the government and released on purpose to reduce Chinas ever increasing poor elderly population. Which due to the 1-2 Child policy China had for so long are mostly male.


This ties into the forced relocation of the poor older population to city housing aka ghettos that has been going on in recent years.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 5:30 am
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61247 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:06 am to
No man. It’s a trade war thing.

Trump figured out a non-political way to slow the import of Chinese goods.

‘Murica
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:51 am to
quote:

This shite was created by the government and released on purpose to reduce Chinas ever increasing poor elderly population. Which due to the 1-2 Child policy China had for so long are mostly male


Certaintly probable considering the government in question.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:42 am to
Welp I'm fricked if it ever blows up stateside
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85164 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:00 am to
If there’s any truth in those articles, that is good news, especially for the children.

Let’s be honest, this all goes back to living standards. There’s a reason why the first Japanese and American deaths have been in Wuhan.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:29 am to
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Let’s be honest, this all goes back to living standards. There’s a reason why the first Japanese and American deaths have been in Wuhan


Ummmmm maybe because that’s where the outbreak started

What about living standards makes a difference with this disease? If you want to claim quality of medical treatment after diagnosis you may have a point.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85164 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:31 am to
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What about living standards makes a difference with this disease? If you want to claim quality of medical treatment after diagnosis you may have a point.


That all fits into the bucket of living standards...

Eat shitty food, live in overcrowded places, frequent smokers, cramped apartments, overcrowded and substandard hospitals
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:31 am to
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Tin foil hat time. This shite was created by the government and released on purpose to reduce Chinas ever increasing poor elderly population. Which due to the 1-2 Child policy China had for so long are mostly male.


Or

It has an affinity for ACE in Asian males because that’s the population that the virus developed in. The virus mutates in animals and then jumped to humans. I’m not surprised it shows an affinity for those original hosts
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:37 am to
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Eat shitty food, live in overcrowded places, frequent smokers, cramped apartments, overcrowded and substandard hospitals


I’ll start by saying none of these have been proven as risk factors for dying of coronavirus. But you could use the flu as comparison.

Show me where eating “shitty” foods makes you more likely to die of the flu or any respiratory illness. If anything these patients are less obese than the land whales in our population. If I’m a betting man my money is on the average Wuhan citizen who is likely not obese vs the average obese diabetic American if medical treatment is the same.

Live in overcrowded places... that may effect spread, but how does it effect mortality?

Frequent smokers... possibly but I would need to see evidence this effects mortality

Overcrowded and substandard hospitals... this is your only valid point
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85164 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:41 am to
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Show me where eating “shitty” foods makes you more likely to die of the flu or any respiratory illness


Sars, bird flu, and this all started in Asian markets because of the shitty contaminated foods they eat

And for your bottom question, it all ties into it spreading... you can’t die if you don’t get it
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13641 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:43 am to
I wonder if you give an acei like captopril or lisinopril in conjunction with every antiviral we have if such a cocktail would be beneficial. Worth a shot based on that study.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:00 am to
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Tin foil hat time.

This shite was created by the government and released on purpose to reduce Chinas ever increasing poor elderly population. Which due to the 1-2 Child policy China had for so long are mostly male.


Yeah you rite
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:08 am to
Let’s do Coronavirus vs Flu world wide.


Flu wins hands downs in infections and deaths.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18181 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:08 am to
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Sars, bird flu, and this all started in Asian markets


Chinese markets. Don’t clump the rest of Asia with China.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:09 am to
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Sars, bird flu, and this all started in Asian markets because of the shitty contaminated foods they eat


Correct that explains the initial mutation. But you haven’t said how diet effects your likelihood of dying once you get the virus.

Your original claim was that the American and Japanese died in Wuhan because of the conditions there.

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And for your bottom question, it all ties into it spreading... you can’t die if you don’t get it


The disagreement was on mortality of people who got the virus. You are moving the goalposts
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61247 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:24 am to
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Let’s do Coronavirus vs Flu world wide.
Flu wins hands downs in infections and deaths.
Remains to be seen.

To be fair, the flu had a few months head start and is an equal opportunity infector.
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