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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:23 pm to slackster
Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:23 pm to slackster
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I saw two confirmed California cases were hospitalized today. The press release didn't say anything about their condition or what changed.
New cases or existing? I would have thought all existing would have been hospitalized and quarantined from the start
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:28 pm to rds dc
Hubei in with 2,345 new cases and 64 new deaths. The rest of China typically rolls in over the next few hours.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:36 pm to rds dc
2100 critical/serious in Hubei. That’s insane. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hubei didn’t have that many icu beds a month ago.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:45 pm to Poker_hog
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2100 critical/serious in Hubei. That’s insane. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hubei didn’t have that many icu beds a month ago.
Hubei's numbers stick out for all the wrong reasons. 2560 in serious/critical condition or dead is nearly 19% of the confirmed cases. Most other provinces run between 8-12%. I'm not sure if that's sampling bias, timing, or medical care quality, but it's worth noting nonetheless. A week ago there were only 2,600 confirmed cases in Hubei and 500 or so severe/dead, so the rate in Hubei has stayed largely the same.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:37 pm to slackster
LINK
Two key pieces from the article
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Two key pieces from the article
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Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health told CNBC on Monday that a quarter of China’s coronavirus cases require intensive treatment.
“About 25% of them have very serious disease, requiring relatively intensive or really intensive care,” said the director of the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
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“It’s escalating,” Fauci said on “Squawk on the Street.” “The number of cases that increase from one day to another is clearly going up in a very steep slope.”
There are many health-care professionals and analysts, including Fauci, who believe the number of coronavirus cases to be much higher.
“There are probably a lot more people who were infected in China who have not been really counted ... because they were either asymptomatic or their symptoms were so light that they didn’t come to the attention of health authorities,” Fauci said. “The number is probably much larger.”
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:40 pm to Lsut81
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New cases or existing? I would have thought all existing would have been hospitalized and quarantined from the start
It was two of the existing cases. The statement really didn't explain much of anything.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:20 pm to Burhead
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It was two of the existing cases. The statement really didn't explain much of anything.
New link:
LINK
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According to public health officials, the couple are both 57 years old and had recently returned to China where husband had spent time in Wuhan. Both of them self-quarantined in their home when they returned to America where doctors had been monitoring their status.
Early Monday morning it was announced that due to worsening symptoms both patients were taken to an out of county hospital.
“It was then determined that both patients needed to be admitted to a hospital equipped for a higher level of care. The patients have been transferred out of San Benito County by specialty ambulance,” said Dr. Marty Fenstersheib, San Benito County Health Officer.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:23 pm to Burhead
Tucker Carlson is doing a story on a guy who videod dead bodies in a hospital and then had the cops come a knocking and arrested him and took his electronics. Apparently he has disappeared.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:31 pm to Lsut81
Saw that. Was it the guy that recorded The body bags in the van?
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:32 pm to MickeyLikesDags21
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Saw that. Was it the guy that recorded The body bags in the van?
Yeah and then was walking through the hospital filming
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:54 pm to RunningBlake
Caijing is an important news outlet in Beijing that's about as independent as is possible in China. In a recent article, it claims that "the number of confirmed and fatal cases that people can see... does not fully reflect the full picture of the epidemic." The reasons behind the underreporting have been stated before, but not officially by a Beijing news outlet:
- Some deaths are being recorded as "general pneumonia"
- Severe shortage of test kits
- People are just leaving medical facilities and going home to die
- 7 hospitals in Hubei have "no beds" and therefore cannot officially maintain statistics related to the coronavirus.
Naturally, the article was immediately censored. However, a translation was preserved here:
LINK
Also, the article in its original Simplified Chinese is here:
LINK
- Some deaths are being recorded as "general pneumonia"
- Severe shortage of test kits
- People are just leaving medical facilities and going home to die
- 7 hospitals in Hubei have "no beds" and therefore cannot officially maintain statistics related to the coronavirus.
Naturally, the article was immediately censored. However, a translation was preserved here:
LINK
Also, the article in its original Simplified Chinese is here:
LINK
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:28 pm to MikeyFL
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it claims that "the number of confirmed and fatal cases that people can see... does not fully reflect the full picture of the epidemic."
I don’t think a single person is taking the numbers being reported as fact... No doubt that China has a motive to suppress the numbers. However, what’s happening in China is not happening anywhere else in the world.
So at the end of the day it is still a mild illness, unless something changes. The severity in China is based off of their lifestyle and govt. Unlikely to see anything similar anywhere else in the world.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:30 pm to Lsut81
First death reported in Hong Kong.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:30 pm to Lsut81
What about an India? Do you think that would be the second worst case scenario?
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:34 pm to RunningBlake
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Can anyone link that? TIA
Story on man disappeared in China
Interesting this article is saying he was released, but the segment on Tucker said he has been disappeared.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:38 pm to DollaChoppa
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What about an India? Do you think that would be the second worst case scenario?
Of course I’m no expert, but I think it would spread, but you wouldn’t see what is happening in China, because I don’t think the govt would have a reason to cover it up.
You’d see more openness and attempts to bring in outside help to curtail it.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:42 pm to Burhead
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“There are probably a lot more people who were infected in China who have not been really counted ... because they were either asymptomatic or their symptoms were so light that they didn’t come to the attention of health authorities,” Fauci said. “The number is probably much larger.”
Hell, even I've been saying this.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:47 pm to Lsut81
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I don’t think a single person is taking the numbers being reported as fact... No doubt that China has a motive to suppress the numbers. However, what’s happening in China is not happening anywhere else in the world.
I think that's all the more reason why Western media needs to keep the pressure on the Chinese government. I don't expect the effect of this virus to be nearly as bad outside of China. However, from a human rights perspective, we can't let China and Xi Jinping brazenly lie to the rest of the world. Its behavior in recent years poses a real threat to world stability.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:49 pm to Burhead
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BNO Newsroom @BNODesk Hong Kong media are reporting that a 39-year-old man with coronavirus and an underlying illness has died. Not yet confirmed by officials.
Wonder what the underlying illness was.
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