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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:55 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:55 am to
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It’s just a very large population that’s been tested whether they’ve shown symptoms or not. Not very different from the cruise ships but way more people.


Correct

More to it as well. We don’t simply say “our employees show 10% infection, the state is 10% as well”

We break down those tested by age, job title, etc, and then match those rates with states represented population to then assume what the states infection rate is
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 11:56 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:58 am to
8% of the state is 375k people. Not out of line with the New York studies.

Did y’all break down by location? Was Nola higher with it being more densely populated?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 11:59 am to
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8% of the state is 375k people. Not out of line with the New York studies.

Did y’all break down by location? Was Nola higher with it being more densely populated?
We have all the locations yes

Haven’t seen it from that view but I can only assume Nola was higher than other areas
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:25 pm to
I think that we're at probably 5% nationwide, and you'd obviously expect Louisiana to be higher than that, so I definitely think that 8% could be about right.

And I firmly believe that restricting groups over 50 and with people wearing masks, and with all the social distancing policies that businesses are implementing, we'll be able to go about our normal lives and keep the R value under 1 this summer.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:35 pm to
I wonder how long the antibodies last, too. If someone got this in February, would they still have enough of them for the test to show a positive?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:36 pm to
My wife just took the test today fwiw. Should get results tomorrow. Since I had it, she’ll likely come back with a positive.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:38 pm to
igM no, IgG yes
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:40 pm to
Speak English to me, Goose.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:42 pm to
there are short-acting "rapid response" antibodies and longer acting antibodies more specific for the pathogen

IgM is the short-acting, IgG long-acting. IgG take longer to build but go away much slower.

If you were infected in February, your SARSCoV19 IgM will probably be low or undetectable and IgG high.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:43 pm to
Thank you.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:14 pm to
Just found out it’s the lgG test. So that’s good.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:55 pm to
yeah, people get false negatives all the time if only the IgM is drawn for various disease states.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 4:30 pm to
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Just found out it’s the lgG test. So that’s good.
All of the tests I’ve seen data for, are testing for both lgG and lgM.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10918 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 6:11 pm to
There are some like the Abbott Labs, Mount Sinai, Othro-Clinical that are just testing for IgG.

I think the couple of studies I read a little on looked for IgM and IgG (several other tests are doing this as well).

One from Vibrant is testing for IgM, IgA, and IgG (pic from their website).
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32392 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:00 pm to
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So the virus isn’t that deadly and the hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. Get back to work


Those early numbers at ochsner and umc, particularly in the icu was absolutely insane. The mortality isn't a big deal, but longterm morbidity is something people keep overlooking.

We should start opening things up slowly and carefully though.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91869 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:08 pm to
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It’s just a very large population that’s been tested whether they’ve shown symptoms or not. Not very different from the cruise ships but way more people.




New York state antibody testing of random folks at grocery stores showed a .6% mortality rate, similar to Pride's numbers.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 7:11 pm to
Ochsner is using Abbott Labs
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10918 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:26 pm to
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Ochsner is using Abbott Labs


UW was allowed to test it and seemed impressed.
https://www.geekwire.com/2020/univ-washington-ramps-abbott-labs-really-fantastic-test-covid-19-antibodies/
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:48 pm to
Yeah, I think that the FDA realizes now that they messed up when they decided to let anyone sell any kind of antibody test, whether it actually works or not, as long as they didn't claim that it could diagnose COVID-19.

All kinds of crap flooded the market and has really exacerbated the arguments that people are making about infection and fatality rates, as bad data is leading to dubious claims.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:02 am to
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Those early numbers at ochsner and umc, particularly in the icu was absolutely insane. The mortality isn't a big deal, but longterm morbidity is something people keep overlooking.


Can you elaborate? I may have missed this.
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