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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:31 pm to
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GOP_Tiger



Glad to hear it man. What business are you in? If you don't want to share on here I understand.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:50 pm to
I mean, if anyone wanted to doxx me, they really could if they put in enough effort. So I've tried, especially in the last few years, to conduct myself here in TD as though I weren't anonymous.

But I'd still prefer not to give up anonymity, so let's just say that my business provides services to children.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 2:00 pm to
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services to children.


Sick bastard.



Good luck man.
Posted by justsaygeaux2
Member since Feb 2017
2497 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Asian viruses call for Asian solutions.


Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:26 pm to
3,1,4,2
Posted by Wolverine2Tiger94
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
48 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:29 pm to
You don't seem to grasp the point of flattening the curve...
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:07 pm to
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You don't seem to grasp the point of flattening the curve...
Umm, yeah he does? Were you replying to someone else?
Posted by Wolverine2Tiger94
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
48 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:11 pm to
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Umm, yeah he does? Were you replying to someone else?


Maybe I replied to the wrong person... But the person I was trying to reply to seemed to think that because the spread is currently slowed that everything is fine now and everything can go back to normal, which is not the case.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:14 pm to
But that’s what everyone said a month ago.

Slow the spread. Save lives. Flatten the curve so everything can go back to normal.

This bullshite is just moving the goalposts to save face and pull in extra federal dollars.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15252 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:22 pm to
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Slow the spread. Save lives. Flatten the curve so everything can go back to normal.


I never heard anyone suggest that flattening the curve would allow everything to get back to normal. The purpose was, and still is, not to overrun the healthcare system.
Posted by Wolverine2Tiger94
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
48 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:23 pm to
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Slow the spread. Save lives. Flatten the curve so everything can go back to normal.


Well seeing as you don't understand either I'll explain it for you. Flattening the curve only works if the curve stays flat or starts to decline after. Easing restrictions too early can cause it to spike again, just look at Hokkaido in Japan. The curve needs to be flattened until one of two things happens. Either a vaccine is created or some sort of herd immunity can be achieved. Neither of those have happened yet.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:25 pm to
Are you serious? That was the whole narrative from the start of the shutdown. Stay home. Save lives. The better you do this, the quicker we get back to normal. That was a lie of course. But a narrative all the same.

I’m not talking about the purpose. I’m talking about the propaganda. If the purpose is to protect the healthcare system, mission accomplished. So let’s get back to work. How is the system any more protected in two weeks? Or 8 weeks? I’ll tell you when it’s most vulnerable. When people start traveling all over the country going from their homes to their college of choice. Is that when we start opening things up? How about September when colds and flus start to spike again? No? Yeah... best wait till next spring.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:26 pm to
You know it’s been declining right? For a while now.

And if you wait for a vaccine you’ll be waiting forever. And the only way to quicken herd immunity is to open up. So why wait?
Posted by Wolverine2Tiger94
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
48 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:37 pm to
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And if you wait for a vaccine you’ll be waiting forever. And the only way to quicken herd immunity is to open up. So why wait?


You're right that a vaccine is a long way away. I'm not saying that we can't start opening up some things. I'm saying that the people who are suggesting we just open everything back up and go back to normal are morons who don't know how this stuff works.

For most diseases it takes between 80-95% of the population to be producing antibodies for herd immunity to be achieved. 80% of Louisiana's population is 3.7 million people and there are roughly 15k staffed hospital beds in the state. With the current 6% hospitalization rate in the state that's over 200k hospitalizations to reach that 80%. Now those obviously won't be all at once but you want to spread those cases out as much as possible so the healthcare system isn't overwhelmed. Which is why restrictions are still needed.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:43 pm to
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For most diseases it takes between 80-95% of the population to be producing antibodies for herd immunity to be achieved. 80% of Louisiana's population is 3.7 million people and there are roughly 15k staffed hospital beds in the state. With the current 6% hospitalization rate in the state that's over 200k hospitalizations to reach that 80%. Now those obviously won't be all at once but you want to spread those cases out as much as possible so the healthcare system isn't overwhelmed. Which is why restrictions are still needed.
Good lord, you don’t need total herd immunity for it to be affective. And you won’t have 200k hospitalizations in a month or even a year. My god you people with your hysteria. Did you think 2 million Americans would die too? Because that’s what you’re saying if you’re expecting 80% of people to be exposed before a vaccine is available.

You can open things up completely but still have plenty of guidance and precautions specifically for old people who are 90% of your hospitalizations. It’s not that complicated.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86574 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:50 pm to
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Easing restrictions too early can cause it to spike again, just look at Hokkaido in Japan


yeah man, all 645 cases out 5.3 million people

This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:53 pm to
Was that in a day? Over a week?

With LA currently at about 215 per day, that doesn’t sound bad at all.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86574 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:54 pm to
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With LA currently at about 215 per day, that doesn’t sound bad at all.


thats total current cases from the second spike

they shut down again when they "peaked" at 18 new cases in a day 3 weeks after they lifted restrictions

This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88269 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:55 pm to
Wtf?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86574 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:56 pm to
exactly

thats the "horror story" of opening up too soon

they currently have a total of 25 deaths

that includes 1st and 2nd wave

This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 8:07 pm
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