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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:34 am to Dizz
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:34 am to Dizz
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That isn’t happening now and won’t happen.
There have already been at least a hundred things that I've been told "would never happen" that have already happened due to the virus.
Say that the TSA doesn't do it. Individual airports could, or even airlines. Would I be more likely to fly an airline where everyone getting on the plane had been tested. Hell yeah. So would everyone else. As we expand rapid testing, it's going to happen.
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:37 am to S1C EM
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Perhaps, but I’d wager that most businesses (or bosses?) still don’t “like” the work-from-home model. I know I can do a lot from home, but certainly lose a great deal of capacity. I can’t fill eight hours a day right now from home. I can’t be the only one.
A lot of my job is working my sales territory and being in front of customers. Drive time typically eats up a lot of my time cause my territory goes as far as 2 hours away. Between that time taken away and market slow down, I am much less busy than typical.
We have always had the freedom to work from home but now I can tell upper mgmt hates that it’s required. They were slow to do it since we were essential
My wife on the other hand has been working from for a month. They are ready to get back in the office but they are keeping up for the most part. After this, I envision that they will do a few work from home days a month if not more.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 9:38 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:38 am to S1C EM
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And I think you and I both know that you aren’t the only one
But don’t underestimate the penny pinchers at the top and challenging “we can put another 200k to the bottom line if we do remote meetings”
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:40 am to GOP_Tiger
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Say that the TSA doesn't do it. Individual airports could, or even airlines. Would I be more likely to fly an airline where everyone getting on the plane had been tested. Hell yeah. So would everyone else. As we expand rapid testing, it's going to happen
Well frick it, let’s do it for everything then... everyone gets a Flu test from now on.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:41 am to Lsut81
Per Capita Death Rate of NY State on par with Spain
CFR still way better for US reported statistics vs Spain/Italy
NY State:
151,171 cases, 6268 deaths, 318 deaths per 1MM people (no 4/9 report yet)
Spain:
152,446 cases, 15,238 deaths, 326 deaths per 1MM people (4/9 data reported)
Italy:
139,422 cases, 17,669 deaths, 292 deaths per 1MM people (no 4/9 data reported)
Louisiana:
17,030 cases, 653 deaths, 140 deaths per 1MM people. (no 4/9 data reported)
CFR still way better for US reported statistics vs Spain/Italy
NY State:
151,171 cases, 6268 deaths, 318 deaths per 1MM people (no 4/9 report yet)
Spain:
152,446 cases, 15,238 deaths, 326 deaths per 1MM people (4/9 data reported)
Italy:
139,422 cases, 17,669 deaths, 292 deaths per 1MM people (no 4/9 data reported)
Louisiana:
17,030 cases, 653 deaths, 140 deaths per 1MM people. (no 4/9 data reported)
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:45 am to Lsut81
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But don’t underestimate the penny pinchers at the top and challenging “we can put another 200k to the bottom line if we do remote meetings”
Here is how I see it happening:
Business travel is going to be cut across the board. In many cases it was already unnecessary. Like my lawyer neighbor who traveled from Houston to Pittsburgh every week.
The cost savings and revenue will be within an explainable margin so it won’t appear to be hurting business.
This will be the trend for awhile
Then 60 minutes will run some story on this revolutionary business that is seeing wild growth by having in person meetings
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:47 am to Dire Wolf
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Then 60 minutes will run some story on this revolutionary business that is seeing wild growth by having in person meetings
Oh I hate remote meetings... sucks so bad.
I’m 100% behind the in person model being more effective but when an exec is shown two balance sheet options, 9/10 they will choose the more cost efficient
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:49 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:That is stupid as hell.
Would I be more likely to fly an airline where everyone getting on the plane had been tested. Hell yeah. So would everyone else.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:59 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:
There have already been at least a hundred things that I've been told "would never happen" that have already happened due to the virus. Say that the TSA doesn't do it. Individual airports could, or even airlines. Would I be more likely to fly an airline where everyone getting on the plane had been tested. Hell yeah. So would everyone else. As we expand rapid testing, it's going to happen.
Test would have to be way less intrusive than a sinus swab to gain acceptance. Breathalizer type thing? The other problem is false positives. If a test has a false positive rate of 1%, and 1% of the population is sick - then 50% of all positives when you sample a random population will indeed be false.
It's either temperature measurement as part of your daily TSA groping or nothing.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:00 am to Lsut81
quote:Disagreed. The amount of connection issues we've had with our Webex meetings this week have soured many on the virtual meeting craze.
Not necessarily... now that all have worked remotely, I’d imagine a number of organizations decide to save money and go this route.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:01 am to BRIllini07
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Test would have to be way less intrusive than a sinus swab to gain acceptance.
And I’d imagine there are tons of HIPAA issues...
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:02 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Disagreed. The amount of connection issues we've had with our Webex meetings this week have soured many on the virtual meeting craze.
‘That’s bc you have tens of millions of people doing it all at once... won’t have that when interagency meetings can be in person with cross company meetings remote.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:28 am to BRIllini07
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Test would have to be way less intrusive than a sinus swab to gain acceptance
Oh, the FDA has already authorized tests using saliva. The days of needing a swab stuck all the way up your nose to the very back ... those days will soon be gone. It's likely that they were never really necessary in the first place.
And temperature measurement is insufficient if half the people with the virus don't have a fever.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:32 am to Scruffy
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Currently, 16.6 million are out of work though and that seems to be increasing by 6 million+ each week.
Would be interested to know what this number would be if they weren't paying people close to $1,000 a week to file for unemployment
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:38 am to BRIllini07
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It's either temperature measurement as part of your daily TSA groping or nothing
Temp measurements is to make people feel better.
Covid has 50% asymptomatic and Temp measurements can be defeated by taking Advil for minor cases.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:56 am to GOP_Tiger
Airlines don’t want to deal with the privacy and HIPPA issues that would come with testing at the gate. Now I could easily see every passenger having their temperature taken.
Once people have a reason to travel again they will.
Once people have a reason to travel again they will.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:10 pm to Dizz
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Airlines don’t want to deal with the privacy and HIPPA issues
HIPAA wouldn't apply to airlines
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:43 pm to Stevo
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HIPAA wouldn't apply to airlines
How would it not if they were the ones required to do the tests?
Now if it’s the TSA before they can even enter the terminals it would default to them, but like I said, the TSA is terrible. You could swap TSA with Burger King workers and not skip a beat.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:43 pm to Scruffy
In just the space of three weeks, the United States has lost more jobs—over 17 million—than were lost in the entire Great Recession, an event that spanned roughly two years. That can only mean those same Americans who also hold a mortgage may now find themselves in the unthinkable position of being unable to make some or all of their monthly payments—perhaps for months, if not longer.
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