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re: Cops Assaulted during street wars in Lubbock Texas

Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
5451 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:14 am to
Why does it seem like the East side is always the hood?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:00 am to
Seems like it was planned well in advance. I wonder if the police knew. If they did, they could've controlled traffic accordingly instead of running around like fools
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34786 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:45 am to
Someone kicked an ant pile..?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:46 am to
This is part of the problem with modern law enforcement and it is only exacerbated by the tacticool, warrior cop culture. They have no sense of humor and they take themselves too seriously. They need to loosen up and have some fun and show the human side of themselves like all those videos that get all the applause that show cops skateboarding with kids and playing pick up basketball in uniform.

If you want to see what a society looks like when they take themselves too seriously just look at Germany in the 40s and the Middle East now.

If I'm a cop I would always ask myself, WWAGD?

What would Andy Griffith do?

Apparently, the answer to that question these days is, call for backup, slam some juveniles to the concrete, taze and arrest everybody, make a national news story about it.

A pre-planned, organized, neighborhood water hose fight.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 10:50 am
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18563 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:49 am to
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or called a firetruck that wasnt doing shite and had them spray everyone with the hose


true, they really enjoy that. look at how much fun it is!!:







SO MUCH FUN!! WEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:51 am to
If I was soaking wet, I probably wouldn't use my taser.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23099 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:04 am to
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thats a really dumb reason. we used to play full football games in the street all the time and nobody came in to make us stop that


From the link in the OP:

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Police Chief Greg Stevens says during the hours of the event, officers responded to at least 58 calls for service in the Parkway neighborhood in east Lubbock. Those calls were related to reports of individuals throwing water balloons and shooting "super soaker" type water guns at each other and passing vehicles, along with reports of multiple streets blocked as a "water war" occurred throughout the neighborhood. "We received further reports of some property and businesses damaged and residents harassed during the "water fight" event, which was referred to as "the purge" on social media. "Specifically, we received at least one report of a windshield cracked and several people being unwittingly drenched as they drove or walked down the street. These calls for service were reported to police by residents and business owners who could not enjoy the peace and quiet of their neighborhood and drive freely down their streets.


It's not like they just said to themselves lets go break up this harmless water fight because we're bored.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1627 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:09 am to
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Ash Williams


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not like blasting them with it or anything. just, for lack of a better phrase, making it rain on them
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:09 am to
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Why does it seem like the East side is always the hood


The sun sets in the West and classy people appreciate beautiful sunset views
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1627 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:21 am to
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several people being unwittingly drenched as they drove or walked down the street.



I dont mind the spraying at cars as they go through. if enough water gets on the windshield, the driver may have trouble seeing for a second before they turn the wipers on though

water balloon cracking a windshield? yeah thatll do it

Also, 58 calls is alot



Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73775 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:25 am to
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when the officer fell.


She didn’t fall. Her body cam did.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:33 am to
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You don't know shite about being a cop so let's just leave it at that


That's an ill-informed assumption.

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1. They didn't go looking for people having a water fight they were called there. Big difference


I have no problem with this. I was just reading the situation at face value based on the information we were given in the OP. Also, I was more or less making a general point that in my experience, typically holds true.

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2. Laws are enforced wether we like them or not. We swore an oath. Sorry for following rules


In a perfect world sure. And I would agree everywhere but the courtroom. Sometimes there are bad laws and they go unenforced by sensible cops utilizing their discretion or by defiant judges and prosecutors or, as a last line of defense, by the people themselves through jury nullification.

That's not even to mention how I and others see cops themselves breaking the laws everyday like the ones I see, that aren't even in their jurisdiction, speeding down the Causeway bridge in their Orleans, St. Charles, St. Bernard and St. James Parish Sheriff's vehicles. If you're going to tout "swearing an oath" shouldn't you at the very least set the example yourself by following the law to the letter?

Law enforcement also and rightly, often chooses not to enforce certain laws by utilizing discretion and prioritizing more important things.

Let's not act like the law, which is written by a bunch of slimy politicians, is the end-all and be-all.

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3. Respect in some areas, times, or places has to be earned through a show or force because ignorance, booze or outright lack of civility by the citizenry


And you had me until this.

Playing head games with the public isn't the answer. The ego and the posturing need to go. There's no place for that in law enforcement. Any attempts to garner arbitrary, dynamic, undefinable and vague notions such as "respect" only shows a level of emotional involvement that's dangerous for both the officer and the public. Law enforcement officers are supposed to be faceless, soulless agents of the government enforcing the laws as written and utilizing sensible discretion when the situation warrants it.

I agree that the public shouldn't take it out on the officers if they're just doing their job. If the public disagrees with the law their vitriol should be directed towards the politicians that wrote it and the judges that interpret it. But every person that chooses voluntarily to pursue a career as a street cop knows what kind of bullshite they're going to have to put up with and if you can't handle the stress and set your ego aside then don't take the job.

It's not a job for the mentally and emotionally weak yet very few departments do what's necessary to weed out those individuals during the hiring process or through the Academy. It's not until after an otherwise seemingly good officer starts cracking that they may or may not get shite canned.

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Show some respect, follow the rules and we'll all get along.


"Follow the rules and we'll all get along" , I can agree with.

This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:36 am
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:38 am to
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his is part of the problem with modern law enforcement and it is only exacerbated by the tacticool, warrior cop culture. They have no sense of humor and they take themselves too seriously. They need to loosen up and have some fun and show the human side of themselves like all those videos that get all the applause that show cops skateboarding with kids and playing pick up basketball in uniform
i agree. Next time someone throws a trash can at me, I’ll just chalk it up as peak comedy and start laughing.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:38 am to
probably called out because of a watering restriction
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:40 am to
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i agree. Next time someone throws a trash can at me, I’ll just chalk it up as peak comedy and start laughing


Reductio ad absurdum
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15337 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:41 am to
Then they'd be racists turning the firehoses ... Bull Connor...etc.

ETA: sorry, someone beat me to this with photographs, too.

ETA 2: If these neighborhoods went to all this trouble to organize this event, couldn't someone have thought "hmmmm, let's see about a permit, and do this right so that the police don't get called, and our neighbors not participating can know about this and avoid the area."
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:46 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:50 am to
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ETA 2: If these neighborhoods went to all this trouble to organize this event, couldn't someone have thought "hmmmm, let's see about a permit, and do this right so that the police don't get called, and our neighbors not participating can know about this and avoid the area."


This is where I think it all went wrong.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:53 am to
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agree. Next time someone throws a trash can at me, I’ll just chalk it up as peak comedy and start laughing


If you go in certain areas of town and expect nothing to happen to you, you are blind.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3870 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:48 pm to
Man, what's the density of this neighborhood ? Is this India ?
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:03 pm to
never mind, late to the party
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 1:05 pm
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