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re: Cop shoots teen during Michigan traffic stop, lawsuit filed (possibly NSFW)

Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:17 am to
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Codes: Section 257.700, Section 257.701

Did you even try to be factual with your post?



But didn't the cop have his high beams on?

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:19 am to
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Cop repeated "license, registration, and proof of insurance PLEASE" like 20 times.


I've never even been asked this not once in my life. 100% of the times I have been pulled over I have had all three in my hand with my window down, before they even got out the car, except the one time I drove a car I was building with no insurance and no license. I was really nice and let go that time, cop understood the need to road test a vehicle.

I feel like I am in the middle here. They were both wrong. I do not understand why the kid refused to comply, I really do not understand the officer though.

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:33 am to
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It kind of is.


Think about what you are saying.

So you are suggesting he worked with departmental mechanics to get a super bright light to entrap people, and when the bait is taken, he doesn't give a citation?

Even freely offers in video testimony that he acknowleges that its bright due to being new, something that would be used against him if a citation happens to be brought up in court.

Seems kind of pointless to do an arrangement like that if you weren't going to use it.


quote:

For some reason this officer decided to pull the guy over for that.


.....

Because in Michigan it is against the law.

He didn't arbitrarily pull them over for that.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 11:38 am
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

So you are suggesting he worked with departmental mechanics to get a super bright light to entrap people, and when the bait is taken, he doesn't give a citation?



No, I am saying the cop probably DID have his high beams on.

So he was himself not compliant with the law.

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:11 pm to
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But didn't the cop have his high beams on?


NO! How many times do you have to be told this? The cop flashed his lights while pulling him over (all on video) to prove it.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:22 pm to
The cop admitted to pulling over other drivers for making the same mistake. When the kid blinked his lights, the cop already knew that his lights were a problem for the other drivers. He had no logical reason to pull the kid over. Also, unless their is more video evidence, the cop already made the kid kneel and then lay flat on the road. Total BS. The kid was nervous and didn't know what he should do. His last words were, I am unarmed. The cop is a murderer.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:33 pm to
You don't get it, do you?

The cops lights were legal.

The kid took the law into his own hands to mistakenly "remind" somebody about their lights, and in the process broke the law.

quote:

The kid was nervous and didn't know what he should do.


That's why the cop was telling him what to do! And he ignored it all.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:47 pm to
Frost is an idiot for driving a shitty car with obviously improperly adjusted lights.
Maybe after the third time on a shift, he would've thought maybe he had a problem.

The kid is a bigger idiot for getting himself killed over nothing.

As an aside:

Cop car lights are getting stupid-bright to the point of blinding anyone coming towards them, yet they can't seem to figure out it is a problem.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

But didn't the cop have his high beams on?



Not that we know. He was driving a SUV and it appeared brighter to lower cars. Just because they appear brighter, does not mean the brights are on.

Testimony will be given from both parties.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:53 pm to
My guess is his "new lights" were some after-market cop bullshite that was improperly installed.
That's why he was "proving" he didn't have his high beams on.

How could've he have been so dumb as not to realize this?


At best, his ignorance contributed to this whole scenario, though obviously, the kid was the bigger fool.

Doesn't really matter where the blame is, he's still DRT.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

No, I am saying the cop probably DID have his high beams on.

Any facts to back this up?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:54 pm to
I'd be willing to bet they weren't stock lights.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

provokes them

Wait....what??

Asking for license and registration is provocation? LOL, this site is awesome.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:04 pm to
All these new LED lights are way too overpowered. They all look like high beams and it is common on a ton of cars.

I absolutely hate it. Cop calls for a second car, not sure why he didn't wait for the second car
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:21 pm to
Comply or die. New police motto. Robocop type stuff. Seems legit
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:22 pm to
Stock lights are fine. Yes, they're brighter than they used to be, but most everyone is used to that by now.

A guy in a new vehicle gets flashed 3x in a few hours and his reaction is to,pull over everyone that does it?

It should occur to him that just maybe he has a problem.

Either his ride height was out of spec, or more likely, he had defective lights.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Either his ride height was out of spec, or more likely, he had defective lights.


Or more likely when they installed push bumpers and strobe lights the headlights point of aim got moved and were pointing a little high.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:26 pm to
Very well could be that..


But damn, can people really be that dumb?
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

But damn, can people really be that dumb?


yes

You would be amazed at how many grown men now a days have no idea how to change oil, tires, etc...

Adjusting headlights would be advanced level shite to many guys nowadays.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:37 pm to
What a dumbass kid.
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