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re: Cop shoots suspect in the back of the head while struggling to arrest him grabbing taser
Posted on 4/14/22 at 12:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 4/14/22 at 12:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Sometimes it's best to let the fleeing suspect go
Yeah, because "oh well, we'll catch the violent criminal driving a likely stolen vehicle next time" is a great strategy to keep the streets safer.
I don't care how this makes me sound. If a young black male is driving around with illegal tags and starts running when he gets pulled over, I assume that he either has committed a violent crime or is on his way to do so. Statistics say I'm more likely right than wrong in that assumption.
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Posted on 4/14/22 at 12:58 pm to LSUcajun77
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Comply and this doesn’t happen.
Exactly
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:00 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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all criminals have to do would be to just run or fight a cop without the cop having any ability to do anything about it.
Cops should do more cop stuff like call for back up, stake outs, investigations, etc... They don't have to be all about one-on-one apprehension through physical force on the street.
The suspect's license was supposedly in the car, along with a passenger. How about call for back up and while waiting, question the passenger and look for the license and maybe get some information on the suspect that way...? Everything doesn't have to look like an episode of Kojak.
Running after the suspect alone just doesn't seem to be a good idea to me. After all, the passenger could drive off with all of your evidence.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:00 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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It happens more than it should.
Maybe, but "defunding the police", "disarming the police", or telling police that if you shoot a black man that is committing a crime, and is trying to take your taser, which could then be used against you, and then your firearm could be taken from you, and then you yourself will be shot, then you will go to prison for the rest of your life.
And because the above is in fact happening, you get the current hyper violence that is occurring in every democrat city. The cops realize it's not worth it to protect and serve, and thus decide to not patrol the majority black high crime neighborhoods because if they decide to prevent crime from occurring, then they themselves, no matter the scenario, will likely have their lives taken from them, whether it be via murder or jail.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I don't see running away
So, you're saying it's okay to run from the cops because like I said before, if that's okay then everyone should just do it. Screw the cops. Next time I'm speeding and get pulled over, I'll just gun it. Can't be guilty if they don't catch me. You seemed to almost be anti-government. I'm for smaller government, sure, but there has to be some authority in place to keep the ill intended at bay. Otherwise, we're all just living in chaos.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:03 pm to BugAC
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Maybe, but "defunding the police", "disarming the police", or telling police that if you shoot a black man that is committing a crime, and is trying to take your taser, which could then be used against you, and then your firearm could be taken from you, and then you yourself will be shot, then you will go to prison for the rest of your life.
And because the above is in fact happening, you get the current hyper violence that is occurring in every democrat city. The cops realize it's not worth it to protect and serve, and thus decide to not patrol the majority black high crime neighborhoods because if they decide to prevent crime from occurring, then they themselves, no matter the scenario, will likely have their lives taken from them, whether it be via murder or jail.
I believe police should stop fielding calls overall from precincts that vote democrat. Democrats don't want police presence, they think police are the enemy, and police really don't want to be there. frick it, let them all kill each other. They have no respect for life anyways.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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They don't have to be all about one-on-one apprehension through physical force on the street.
A lot of violent crimes against innocents are prevented because of "one-on-one apprehension". Rather than your "just call for help" approach, they need significantly more funding for better training, specifically courses like jiu jitsu and daily situational firearms training.
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The suspect's license was supposedly in the car, along with a passenger.
The cop doesn't know that.
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How about call for back up and while waiting
For all traffic stops, they do report in the situation and nearby units arrive. The problem, is most departments in Democrat cities have been defunded thus less backup.
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Running after the suspect alone just doesn't seem to be a good idea to me.
Depends on the size of the person, and the cops ability to take him down and handle him. But yes, a smaller cop chasing down a much larger perp probably isn't going to go well. The cops may assume that most perps comply. If so, that part of training needs to be revised.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Cops should do more cop stuff like call for back up, stake outs, investigations, etc...
The libs want to defund the police, and you want initiate a full scale investigation for every traffic stop. Neither makes any sense at all.
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They don't have to be all about one-on-one apprehension through physical force on the street.
They're not, but when they are this can happen. Just don't be a dumbass when talking to cops. More education is needed on both sides in my opinion.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:07 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Am I the only one that thinks this could be accidental discharge? Not saying it is, but the cop went for his gun while he was still wrestling. It *almost* looks like he went to push off/up with his right hand when the shot was fired.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
How many warrants does your wife’s boyfriend have?
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:11 pm to VADawg
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Democrats don't want police presence
FACT. Democrats don't. But the poor black innocent people who somehow always vote democrat, desperately want a police presence. It's the politicians and race pimps that want their protection removed and use "racism" as a tool to turn the poor into inevitable victims.
The Democrat party is the single greatest threat to poor black people. No amount of "white supremacy" has inflicted so much perpetual violence and poverty as has Democrat policies since inception of the party. They are the party of the KKK, the opposition to the civil rights movement, the destruction of the nuclear family, and perpetuators of mass genocide based solely on skin color. And despite all of that, they still get 90% of the black vote.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:12 pm to VADawg
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I believe police should stop fielding calls overall from precincts that vote democrat. Democrats don't want police presence, they think police are the enemy, and police really don't want to be there. frick it, let them all kill each other. They have no respect for life anyways.
I tend to agree, but the sad news is that these "folks" like to ride out to "better" areas where they can find stuff worth stealing. We live in a safe, highly affluent area 30 miles north of Atlanta. Whenever there is violent crime here, it is surprise surprise someone that decided to visit from another area.
Shoplifting is something they love to export, as well. I guess there's not much left in pumpkintown, and their stores all have bars on windows, security on staff, etc... we folks in Mayberry are sitting ducks for these revelers.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:13 pm to BugAC
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FACT. Democrats don't. But the poor black innocent people who somehow always vote democrat, desperately want a police presence.
I have no sympathy for them. They're getting exactly what they continue to vote for.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:16 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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That still doesn't mean you can't be a danger to society. After all, you want to know who was perfectly compliant with the police when pulled over for suspicious/missing plates?
Timothy McVeigh.
Damn, I think you might want to pick a different example. Mcveigh got pulled over for missing plates and a hand gun was found in his possession. He was compliant and placed under arrest, and the arresting officer even stated that he would have never thought this guy just blew up a building. But based on your argument let's say in the Mcveigh situation, say Mcveigh was not compliant and tried to run away. As you have stated the cop should just let him go. I wonder if another building get's blown up.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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They don't have to be all about one-on-one apprehension through physical force on the street.
The cops and 99.9% of normal society don't think that a simple traffic stop for a registration infraction would need any backup or end up in a physical altercation.
Yet again, you're excusing the unlawful behavior of criminals.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:23 pm to VADawg
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I have no sympathy for them. They're getting exactly what they continue to vote for.
Maybe i'm getting softer as i get older, but i have some sympathy for them. I see it as being a citizen of North Korea type scenario. They only get news from one source. They are born into households that only "teaches" one side of things. "You won't get a fair shake because you're black, so you better get "yours"". This is reinforced by the propaganda machine of the mainstream media. They are then attacked/ridiculed if they dare to think differently from the hive mind. If they dare to accept personal responsibility, and refuse the carrot that is attached to so man conditions, then they are labeled a traitor to their race and are attacked. There are outliers to the scenario, but for the majority of poor black neighborhoods like in New Orleans, Chicago, New York, Detroit, Baltimore, etc... it is a cycle that rarely ever gets broken. And when it is broken, the Democrat politicians swoop in to fix the break and keep the status quo.
There is a clear disincentive for Democrats if the majority of black people were allowed to think freely.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:26 pm to VADawg
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I believe police should stop fielding calls overall from precincts that vote democrat. Democrats don't want police presence, they think police are the enemy, and police really don't want to be there. frick it, let them all kill each other. They have no respect for life anyways.
Eventually it is going to come to that. I have stated all along that sooner or later that cops, firemen, truck drivers postal people, ambulance drives, food delivery people will stop going to specific areas because the crime rate is too bad. And you can't blame any of them.
This post was edited on 4/14/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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After all, you want to know who was perfectly compliant with the police when pulled over for suspicious/missing plates?
Timothy McVeigh.
I think you just owned yourself, WildTchoup.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:28 pm to Bamawaterfowl
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Damn, I think you might want to pick a different example. Mcveigh got pulled over for missing plates and a hand gun was found in his possession. He was compliant and placed under arrest, and the arresting officer even stated that he would have never thought this guy just blew up a building.
But based on your argument let's say in the Mcveigh situation, say Mcveigh was not compliant and tried to run away. As you have stated the cop should just let him go. I wonder if another building get's blown up.
So you're saying if someone who is compliant and peaceful can be a mass murderer?
Yep, I think my example stands. You can't can't judge someone's guilt or innocence by how they behave with the police when pulled over.
Posted on 4/14/22 at 1:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The cop never should have let the man get a hold of his taser.
I agree with this. The cop should have shot him BEFORE he got the taser. But he was trying to de-escalate the situation even after he got it by telling the upstanding citizen to drop the taser. Did he comply??? NO. Well play silly games and get your a$$ shot!!! I have no problem with that. You can call it execution if you like but it just shows what you are made of.
Me? I have been stopped countless times. My white privilege involved not attacking the cop. Nothing else.
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