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re: Cop shoots drunk disorderly fireman who should have complied

Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by lsu fan cw
Member since Jan 2014
305 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
I am not a big fan of the police, but some of ther responses in this thread are ridiculous.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
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This is what escalated the fight. The fireman was resisting being cuffed, the cop jumped on his back with his knee.


What would you have him do? The subject had just commited battery on a cab driver and he was trying to take him into custody. Should he have let him walk away? Handcuffs are very dangerous when you have only one hand cuffed as the subject can wield them like a mace.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19152 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

you saying you have to be able to physically restrain every single person in the world in 1 on 1 comabt in order to be a cop?


we aren't talking about the heavyweight champion of the world we are talking about an off duty firefighter.

If you can't restrain an off duty firefighter long enough for backup to come then no you can not defend yourself, you should not be a cop and you damn sure shouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14206 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

And for those saying the off duty fireman wasn't drunk..



Dead Guy's wife made the claim neither of them were drunk.



.21: This is drunk.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14206 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

we aren't talking about the heavyweight champion of the world we are talking about an off duty firefighter. If you can't restrain an off duty firefighter long enough for backup to come then no you can not defend yourself, you should not be a cop and you damn sure shouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon.


Dude. Just stop.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

we aren't talking about the heavyweight champion of the world we are talking about an off duty firefighter.


Every firefighter i know is a meathead douchebag who does nothing but lift weights while they are waiting for a call... :dunno :

also, the firefighter in question certainly looked like he would be a heavyweight.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19152 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:06 pm to
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Every firefighter i know is a meathead douchebag who does nothing but lift weights while they are waiting for a call... :dunno :
Ok?
Posted by lsu fan cw
Member since Jan 2014
305 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

we aren't talking about the heavyweight champion of the world we are talking about an off duty firefighter.

If you can't restrain an off duty firefighter long enough for backup to come then no you can not defend yourself, you should not be a cop and you damn sure shouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon.


Your statement is very naive.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

we aren't talking about the heavyweight champion of the world we are talking about an off duty firefighter.

If you can't restrain an off duty firefighter long enough for backup to come then no you can not defend yourself, you should not be a cop and you damn sure shouldn't be allowed to carry a weapon.


You have now lost all credibility. Can you not see the horrible flaw in your logic? Please end this before people begin to ignore everything you post.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
Manchester United Fan
Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Trying to defend this idiot who attacked a police officer makes the outcry over actual police brutality cases seem less legitimate.


Yeah, I'm all about exposing aggressive police action that crosses the boundaries of reasonableness under the circumstances. But can't do that in this case. The off-duty fireman was drunk, got into an altercation with a cabbie, resisted arrest, subdued the officer, and began pounding him in the face. I have to say I think the cop was within his rights to defend himself.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Ok?


sorry, let me dumb it down for you.

You are a moron.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19152 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

The off-duty fireman was drunk, got into an altercation with a cabbie, resisted arrest, subdued the officer, and began pounding him in the face. I have to say I think the cop was within his rights to defend himself.


If he could defend hi,self he wouldn't have been getting pounded on.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10859 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:11 pm to
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If he could defend hi,self he wouldn't have been getting pounded on.


Do you want your nobel prize now or should we hold on to it? Because you're obviously a genius.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

If he could defend hi,self he wouldn't have been getting pounded on.


just stop...
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:12 pm to
A lot of you anti cop people are making other anti cop people look bad in this thread. This is basically the TM case on video.
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Every firefighter i know is a meathead douchebag who does nothing but lift weights while they are waiting for a call...


Everyone fireman I know just cooks awesome food and gets fat as shite waiting on the call...
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Everyone fireman I know just cooks awesome food and gets fat as shite waiting on the call...


i should have added that i only know 3 firemen.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:14 pm to
complete with concrete head smashing and everything!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283717 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:14 pm to
quote:


What would you have him do?


Hold on a minute buddy. Did I say it was necessarily wrong? I said it escalated the resistance into a full fledged fight.

I don't think that's arguable.
Posted by Mett's Stache
Member since Sep 2012
444 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:16 pm to
So if a guy can beat up a cop then he can do whatever he wants?

You're an idiot.
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