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re: Cool Picture of the Day: NASA's Apollo Program's Lead Engineer Margaret Hamilton

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Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:08 am to
So what’s the real story then?
Posted by Shwapp
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:08 am to
IWHI
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:11 am to
I seriously doubt the LEAD engineer for America’s premier and most visible national program in the 1960’s was a woman.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:12 am to
uh why are you assuming gender, that was probably a male
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:14 am to
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I seriously doubt the LEAD engineer for America’s premier and most visible national program in the 1960’s was a woman.

you'd be surprised at some of the cats behind the scenes, once you get to a certain level of genius and are able to harness that intelligence you get to skip a few steps and make your own rules

I remember seeing pics of some of the NASA engineers during the shuttle hay day, bunch of long haired, van driving, dope smoking, hippie freaks
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 10:17 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:15 am to
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you'd be surprised at some of the cats behind the scenes, once you get to a certain level of genius and are able to harness that intelligence you get to skip a few steps and make your own rules
Yeah but LEAD engineers aren’t behind the scenes lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:17 am to
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think that people these days know more as a whole, with such easy access to so much information, but people these days don't know how to do more, if that makes any sense. People were more self-sufficient, and resourceful.


We have more info available but our problem solving abilities and desire to tackle adversity have diminished.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:18 am to
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Yeah but LEAD engineers aren’t behind the scenes lol

might have been the only presentable one they had?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:26 am to
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We have more info available but our problem solving abilities and desire to tackle adversity have diminished.

worked with a guy last night that was "helping" his daughter with her algebra homework, she sent him a pic of the problem, he googled it, took a pic of the solution, and sent it back to her, tell me how she could possibly be learning anything, but the kid probably has one of those 7.5 weighted GPAs that all kids seem to have these days
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 10:28 am
Posted by Sisyphus
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:27 am to
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So what’s the real story then?


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Hamilton then joined the Charles Stark Draper Laboratory at MIT, which at the time was working on the Apollo space mission. She eventually led a team credited with developing the software for Apollo and Skylab. Hamilton's team was responsible for developing in-flight software, which included algorithms designed by various senior scientists for the Apollo command module, lunar lander, and the subsequent Skylab. Another part of her team designed and developed the systems software which included the error detection and recovery software such as restarts and the Display Interface Routines (AKA the Priority Displays) which Hamilton designed and developed. She worked to gain hands-on experience during a time when computer science courses were uncommon and software engineering courses did not exist.


From Wikipedia. This was the first comment on Reddit which is where the picture came from.

No one is taking away from what she did however that was the work of a whole team she led.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:28 am to
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So what’s the real story then?


Reddit goes into orgasm mode over social justice bullshite that proves even in an age of plentiful information, misinformation can be just easily spread.


Margaret Hamilton used as feminist propaganda


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**tl;dr** - Hamilton is a brilliant engineer who wrote a lot of the code that made the moon landing possible. Her role is often sadly overlooked. **But this comic at best massively oversimplifies and at worst is just flat-out wrong.** A checklist error did *not* almost derail the first moon landing, and Hamilton did *not* write the Executive code that enabled the Apollo Guidance Computer to do its BAILOUT restarts. Her equally valuable contributions were elsewhere.





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Thank you. I think that Margaret Hamilton deserves a lot of credit, but every successive time she's mentioned, she gets more and more credit for what a team of people did.

There were also 400,000 other people who weren't Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins or Hamilton who helped Apollo get to the moon.





Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:31 am to
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Yeah but LEAD engineers aren’t behind the scenes lol


They were totally behind the scenes, my Dad was a lead avionics engineer during the Apollo program. The only ones to get face time with media or even real recognition in those days were the program managers.
Posted by Amadeo
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:34 am to
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There were also 400,000 other people who weren't Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins or Hamilton who helped Apollo get to the moon.

So "hidden Figures" works both ways for whatever propaganda you want to push.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:36 am to
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So "hidden Figures" works both ways for whatever propaganda you want to push.




I dont follow. As long as there isnt over exaggeration and lying it's not propaganda.


This is clearly lying to promote propaganda.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:40 am to
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I genuinely think people then were smarter.


They were...we stand on the shoulders of giants.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:40 am to
I honestly expected to see a picture of Margaret Hamilton from Wizard of Oz.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:41 am to
Hollywood told us these brilliant women that brought us to the moon were black!
Posted by TigerCoon
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:42 am to
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I think that people these days know more as a whole


Individuals today have access to more. They don't know more. And much of what they have access to is misinformation.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:44 am to
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Hollywood told us these brilliant women that brought us to the moon were black!

also told us the Tuskeegee airmen never lost a bomber they were escorting and never took a casualty themselves too
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:46 am to
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I seriously doubt the LEAD engineer for America’s premier and most visible national program in the 1960’s was a woman.



The thread title is not correct. She was not NASA's lead engineer on the program, but a lead engineer of a particular project. Big difference
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