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re: Cool graphic showing decline in labor hours required to buy home stuff: 1979 vs now: wow

Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Montezuma
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:15 am to
Did not control for inflation?
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:28 am to
Ooh ooh do a college education or a home
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:31 am to
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$5,489 or 835 labor hours

$26,615 or 1263 labor hours

51% increase



Well, back then a truck was a truck...


1973 Ford F100 (and this is the fancy model with automatic transmission)

Now trucks are glorified luxury cars.

2019 Ford F-150
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:32 am to
What is the quality of the product today compared to 1979?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:34 am to
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Ooh ooh do a college education or a home



With the high interest rates a mortgage for an 80k house was as much then as a 180k house is today.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:38 am to
A 50k home in 1979 adjusted for inflation would be about 180k today. You can still buy a home for 180k. It might not be as big as you want or where you want but that's a reasonable home price in many areas of the country.
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Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:42 am to
Median home price is like 215k now
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:46 am to
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What is the quality of the product today compared to 1979?


Generally better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:48 am to
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Median home price is like 215k now


Houses are much much larger.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:50 am to
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You can still buy a home for 180k. It might not be as big as you want or where you want but that's a reasonable home price in many areas of the country.


I imagine if you take the 50k home in 1980, it would be less than 180k. Homes have grown so much larger than they were in the day.

Typically 900-1200 sq ft in those days.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:53 am to
My first cellular car phone in the mid 1980’s cost me around $4,500. So do the maths.
Posted by Phat Phil
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:55 am to
Now do health insurance and hospital costs.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:56 am to
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Mortgage rates made payments back in those days extremely high


Good point.

An accurate comparison would be the monthly P&I with 20% down and a 30-year term.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:58 am to
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A 50k home in 1979 adjusted for inflation would be about 180k today. You can still buy a home for 180k. It might not be as big as you want or where you want but that's a reasonable home price in many areas of the country.


Exactly. The difference is back then people were content to live within their means. They understood you usually had to start out in a starter home then with time and savings you might (keycword might) be able to get a bigger and nicer house down the road. Now they think they’re entitled to go straight into a big brick mansion right from the start.

This was what most people started out with in the 70s.



Now they think they have to start out with this.


And let’s not forget that in 1979 home interest rates were over 10% and almost always required a huge down payment, as much as 20%. Now mortgage rates are well under 5% and most time require little or no down payment.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 12:17 pm to
Our first house was in the country near Walker. 1380sq ft and about 123k for a family of 4. It had carpet and vinyl siding. It was also easily affordable for a young couple with 2 kids.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 12:21 pm to
Do do the price of homes, cars, education, healthcare, and graceries
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 12:21 pm to
You can thank China.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 12:23 pm to
1979.

Carter sucked.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Do do the price of homes, cars, education, healthcare, and graceries

Health care and education are the only things in that list that have far outpaced inflation.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Our first house was in the country near Walker. 1380sq ft and about 123k for a family of 4. It had carpet and vinyl siding. It was also easily affordable for a young couple with 2 kids


That is the typical house myself and most of my friends grew up in in the 60s-70s, parents today consider having sibling share a bedroom the equivalent to living in poverty.
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