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re: Cookie Cutter Subdivisions

Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:09 pm to
I should have specified not necessarily the same house. They were all spec builds so we would be working on different houses different days.

Do a footer on one one day, lay block on another the next day, backfill another on another day, etc....but the rotation was one house reached completion every 4-5 days.


ETA: These were 14-1500 square foot homes - Connemara subdivision in Evans Ga if you wanna check it out.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:13 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32515 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Because they’re cheap houses that are going to be
Flooded next major rain event cause they’re building them in cane fields with no regard to infrastructure. See Broussard or Youngsville.


Yessir! And they all cry foul when we cut our drainage in Lafayette claiming that we are dumping water on them.

NEWS FLASH: You are building in the Lafayette/Acadiana area watershed!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

older houses as in like pre-WWII may have an argument, but older as in 50s-70s boom? no way. new codes and materials make new homes a lot better built



Maybe, but I'm talking more about the look of them. The ones that are brick on the front, but vinyl siding or hardy board on the other 3 sides. Then you walk in the house and the fixtures look cheap. You walk around the walls seem thin. The flooring looks cheap.
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:12 pm to
They better have their drainage straight before they keep doing all that subdivision building. Just saying learn from the greater BR areas mistakes.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:13 pm to
Are the local pols getting greased or are they invested in the neighborhoods? I can’t see how the builders get approval for some of the projects I’ve seen out there.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:13 pm to
Because oil field honeys and hair dressers keep buying them.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:13 pm to
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I know the Ranch Style brick home I grew up in and lived in for two decades had zero issues. I believe it was built in the 70s.


You mean...other than lead paint?
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6571 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:14 pm to
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5 sets of house plans is cheaper than 30
My street and a couple blocks around it are early examples of this, all houses built by the same developer between 1906-1920. There are variations between Craftsman, Queen Anne, and Prairie styles, and some differences in bay windows, dormers, porches, etc., but they're all American Four Squares with pretty much the same floorplan.

It's a Historic District in the National Register, which is funny considering it's the exact same cookie cutter type development many people complain about now, just much older.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:16 pm to
Just moved into one of those neighborhoods last year. I want out so bad. I find it depressing. It's a good starter home, but I can't take this long term.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:17 pm to
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Maybe, but I'm talking more about the look of them. The ones that are brick on the front, but vinyl siding or hardy board on the other 3 sides. Then you walk in the house and the fixtures look cheap. You walk around the walls seem thin. The flooring looks cheap.


Not wild about those obviously cheap looking houses either, especially when there are older homes that could be acquired and renovated pretty easily.

I do think that Louisiana is going to have to live with smaller lots in areas that are not prone to flooding. Logically we should be putting as many homes on those plots of land as possible while discouraging dense developments in flood prone areas. Smaller lots don't necessarily mean poor quality though.

And I guess I can see how these cheaper homes are in demand. Affordable housing being available probably makes the whole region more attractive to potential employers.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:19 pm to
You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:21 pm to
You must not be familiar with DSLD and DR Horton.

They build out entire subdivisions with houses they can sell far cheaper than you'd pay going through a more custom builder. Its cheap because they pretty much build in bulk. You get to pick from 5-6 floor plans and a few choices for things like cabinet/countertop, paint, and flooring. Just about every other interior finish is identical for every house in the neighborhood. Its how they can build them so fast and cheap.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:24 pm to
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You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.



Not sure. Lead paint, asbestos, etc. Most of that was gone by 1980. Asphalt shingles seem to have grown from a 15 year life to a 30 year life since then. Some can even last 50 years now. And within the last 10 years, south Louisiana started getting requirements for sheer walls, hurricane straps, etc. That's now on every new home south of Avoyelles Parish.

Where we fall short now in low/mid priced homes is general quality of workmanship. It's severely bad in some cases. But an argument can be made that the materials and advances in structure could make up for some of it. Newer neighborhoods also usually have a higher finished floor elevation requirement than older neighborhoods in the same area, which is probably a good thing for the long term viability of the house in question.

If we can just get rid of shite materials EFIS.....
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:27 pm to
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You must not be familiar with DSLD and DR Horton.


I dislike them both, but I understand the importance of having affordable, low maintenance homes available to buyers. Even the cheapest Horton will last just fine if it's maintained. And it can be improved significantly with landscaping, better finishes, etc.

I also suspect that DLSD is a shade better than Horton, who I think owns their own financing company and has deployed some "aggressive" sub-prime packages to sell inventory.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5829 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:31 pm to

Some homeowners just dig that army barracks look and feel is all I can figure.

Posted by Cledus
God’s Country
Member since May 2021
259 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:36 pm to
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I don’t know much about developing subdivisions, but for those who do, why is this the case?


Because the developers want to maximize their money for the amount of land they have.

It’s why most of those houses have the garages taking up half the front of the house.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14337 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:38 pm to
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It’s why most of those houses have the garages taking up half the front of the house.



This. I jog around a new neighbor when I am exercising. Half of the houses look like a garage with a house attached. These are around $400k-$500k houses.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3137 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:53 pm to
It’s amazing how much some people spend on clone houses nearly built wall-to-wall.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20068 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:59 pm to
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I don’t know much about developing subdivisions, but for those who do, why is this the case?

I don’t know? Probably easier to churn them out and people without unlimited means are happy to own a home even if it doesn’t stand out
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:03 pm to
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It’s amazing how much some people spend on clone houses nearly built wall-to-wall.





A byproduct of the American capitalist system that puts such a huge emphasis on "achieving the American dream of home ownership" when in actuality you're a slave to the bank that holds the mortgage, the insurance company that underwrites the property, and in many cases an HOA that tells you what you can and can't do to your property.
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