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Controlling pollution results in …Global Warming
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:38 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:38 am
From the Law of Unintended Consequences files:
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Regulations imposed in 2020 by the United Nations’s International Maritime Organization (IMO) have cut ships’ sulfur pollution by more than 80% and improved air quality worldwide. The reduction has also lessened the effect of sulfate particles in seeding and brightening the distinctive low-lying, reflective clouds that follow in the wake of ships and help cool the planet. The 2020 IMO rule “is a big natural experiment,” says Duncan Watson-Parris, an atmospheric physicist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. “We’re changing the clouds.”
By dramatically reducing the number of ship tracks, the planet has warmed up faster, several new studies have found. That trend is magnified in the Atlantic, where maritime traffic is particularly dense. In the shipping corridors, the increased light represents a 50% boost to the warming effect of human carbon emissions. It’s as if the world suddenly lost the cooling effect from a fairly large volcanic eruption each year, says Michael Diamond, an atmospheric scientist at Florida State University.
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:42 am to DesScorp
i'm sick of hearing the words global warming or climate change. it's probably happening but not as fast as these reporters say. EVERYTHING is caused by it according to them.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:51 am to DesScorp
I'm headed out to glue myself to a Rembrandt to protest ULS diesel
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:52 am to DesScorp
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When the team scaled their findings across the planet, they found that changes in low-lying clouds from all industrial pollution sources could block about 1 Watt of energy per square meter globally. For context, greenhouse gases from industrial activities have trapped roughly 3 Watts per square meter so far.
“Cloud changes caused by industrial pollution have produced a global cooling effect that is about one-third as strong as the warming from increased greenhouse gases,” said Diamond.
Diamond explains that even though these ship emissions have a short-term cooling effect, they create other issues. Pollutants from ship exhaust have detrimental effects on human health, while also adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:52 am to DesScorp
Global BOILING!!!!
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:54 am to DesScorp
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:54 am to Corinthians420
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Diamond explains that even though these ship emissions have a short-term cooling effect, they create other issues. Pollutants from ship exhaust have detrimental effects on human health, while also adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere
So short term cooling effects that leads to warming but will be counteracted by the cooling.
It's hilarious how our resident left wing lunatics buy into this shite
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:56 am to upgrayedd
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So short term cooling effects that leads to warming but will be counteracted by the cooling.
Can you read? Lol why don't you just tell us all how stupid you are.
The cooling effect doesn't equal the warming effect, it isn't rocket science.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:56 am to DesScorp
The earth has been changing it's climate since it's inception.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:20 am to Corinthians420
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Can you read? Lol why don't you just tell us all how stupid you are.
The cooling effect doesn't equal the warming effect, it isn't rocket science.
Here's our true believer
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:22 am to Corinthians420
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The cooling effect doesn't equal the warming effect, it isn't rocket science.
Based off of empirical data and success rate, rocket science seems much easier than climate science.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:22 am to upgrayedd
I hope he becomes self sufficient since almost 100% of the things he owns got to him on those pesky ships
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:25 am to upgrayedd
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Here's our true believer
The good thing about science is it isn't based on "belief."
It is based on replicable evidence.
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I hope he becomes self sufficient since almost 100% of the things he owns got to him on those pesky ships
Saying ships cause pollution isn't the same as saying we shouldn't use ships haha what is this fantasy world you live in where everything is black and white/good vs evil?
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:22 am to Corinthians420
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The good thing about science is it isn't based on "belief."
Oh, Christ.
You're even throwing in the generic "I believe the science" tropes
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:32 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 8/3/23 at 12:18 pm to DesScorp
This is like a drop in the bucket compared to what the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 did to emissions from coal fired power plants.
Scrubbers were retrofitted on many existing plants, and many others switched from high sulfur to low sulfur coal to reduce SO2 emissions.
Since that time, now 30 years later, numerous coal fired plants have been shut down, reducing emissions even further.
SO2 emissions from ships is like a fart in the wind compared to what has already happened.
So if the study is true, it started getting worse decades ago.
Anthropogenic emissions have negligible impact on climate change. FACT. Just look at the data, not the fear porn spread by our government overlords, media, and those institutions and people who make a living from our government overlords.
Scrubbers were retrofitted on many existing plants, and many others switched from high sulfur to low sulfur coal to reduce SO2 emissions.
Since that time, now 30 years later, numerous coal fired plants have been shut down, reducing emissions even further.
SO2 emissions from ships is like a fart in the wind compared to what has already happened.
So if the study is true, it started getting worse decades ago.
Anthropogenic emissions have negligible impact on climate change. FACT. Just look at the data, not the fear porn spread by our government overlords, media, and those institutions and people who make a living from our government overlords.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 1:58 pm to upgrayedd
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You're even throwing in the generic "I believe the science" tropes
He wasn't, that was a nice strawman though.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:09 pm to Coldcushcush
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i'm sick of hearing the words global warming or climate change. it's probably happening but not as fast as these reporters say. EVERYTHING is caused by it according to them.
Do you actually think reporters are the source of the cause/effect analysis? And that it’s a coincidence that they’re reporting agrees with the scientific consensus?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:53 pm to DesScorp
This has certainly been an interesting regulation since it was first implemented. This isn't the only possible unintended consequence of it, either.
The new scrubbers being installed on cargo ships have, in fact, decreased emissions. However, those pollutants don't just disappear. They have to go somewhere, and where they go is through a washer. The ships/scrubbers use seawater in that process. That water must also go somewhere, and that somewhere is directly into the ocean. Those scrubbers have lead to a marked increase in water pollution, to the extent that some countries have implemented new regulations that limit how close to port those systems can be dumped.
The new scrubbers being installed on cargo ships have, in fact, decreased emissions. However, those pollutants don't just disappear. They have to go somewhere, and where they go is through a washer. The ships/scrubbers use seawater in that process. That water must also go somewhere, and that somewhere is directly into the ocean. Those scrubbers have lead to a marked increase in water pollution, to the extent that some countries have implemented new regulations that limit how close to port those systems can be dumped.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:34 pm to DesScorp
Rob Perillo said the record high for yesterday was set in 1899. That is before any car, plane, train, etc had a motor. Must have been a lot of cow farts.
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