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Consumer Reports release 2020 predicted reliability by brand
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:39 pm
CR released its new numbers last week. I will add a link at the bottom but it may be behind a paywall. I tried some editing on the chart to make it display correctly but failed.
Some notable changes:
Lexus and Mazda jump Toyota
Porsche up 5 to #4
Dodge jumps 13 spots (Dodge Chrysler Infiniti and Mini all moved up due to few redesigns and shrinking lineups
Honda moves up 2 but still abysmal for them Acura down in 28th
Audi and BMW both had big drops on the backs of their new introductions A6 and X5
GMC/Chevy/Cadillac all in the bottom ten
Columns are 2020 Rank Rank Change from 2019 Brand (No. of Models) Least Reliable Model Avg. Predicted Reliability Score out of 100 Most Reliable Model
1 ?2 LEXUS (10) LS 81 IS
2 ?2 MAZDA (6) 3 77 MX-5 Miata
3 ?2 TOYOTA (14) C-HR 77 Corolla
4 ?5 PORSCHE (4) 718 75 Cayenne
5 ?1 GENESIS (3) G90 71 G70
6 ?1 HYUNDAI (6) Tucson 69 Kona
7 ?5 SUBARU (5) Ascent 68 BRZ
8 ?13 DODGE (3) Durango 63 Challenger
9 ?1 KIA (9) Stinger 62 Soul
10 ?5 MINI (3) Cman 59 Cooper
11 ?1 NISSAN (11) Titan 57 Altima
12 ?2 HONDA (11) Pport 55 Clarity
13 ?4 INFINITI (3) Q50 53 QX60
14 ?7 AUDI (8) Q8 51 A4/Allroad
15 ?4 LINCOLN (4) Nautilu 50 MKZ
16 — FORD (9) F-150 50 EcoSport
17 ?7 BMW (8) X5 46 i3
18 ?5 BUICK (5) Regal 46 Encore
19 ?7 CHRYSLER (2) Pacifif 44 300
20 — MITSUBISHI (2) Outland 43 Outland SP
21 ?1 MERCEDES (5) S-Class 42 GLA
22 ?2 GMC (6) Canyon 40 Yukon
23 ?4 TESLA (3) Model X 39 Model 3
24 ?1 VOLVO (5) XC90 38 XC40
25 ?3 CHEVROLET(11) Colorad 37 Tahoe
26 ?3 JEEP (5) Wrangle 35 G Cherokee
27 ?9 VOLKSWAGEN (5) Atlas 33 GTI
28 ?9 ACURA (3) MDX 29 TLX
29 — ALFA ROMEO (2) Giulia 27 Stelvio
30 — CADILLAC (3) XT4 23 XT5
We don't have sufficient data to rank Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Jaguar, Land Rover, Maserati, Mitsubishi, Ram, or Smart.
CR
Some notable changes:
Lexus and Mazda jump Toyota
Porsche up 5 to #4
Dodge jumps 13 spots (Dodge Chrysler Infiniti and Mini all moved up due to few redesigns and shrinking lineups
Honda moves up 2 but still abysmal for them Acura down in 28th
Audi and BMW both had big drops on the backs of their new introductions A6 and X5
GMC/Chevy/Cadillac all in the bottom ten
Columns are 2020 Rank Rank Change from 2019 Brand (No. of Models) Least Reliable Model Avg. Predicted Reliability Score out of 100 Most Reliable Model
1 ?2 LEXUS (10) LS 81 IS
2 ?2 MAZDA (6) 3 77 MX-5 Miata
3 ?2 TOYOTA (14) C-HR 77 Corolla
4 ?5 PORSCHE (4) 718 75 Cayenne
5 ?1 GENESIS (3) G90 71 G70
6 ?1 HYUNDAI (6) Tucson 69 Kona
7 ?5 SUBARU (5) Ascent 68 BRZ
8 ?13 DODGE (3) Durango 63 Challenger
9 ?1 KIA (9) Stinger 62 Soul
10 ?5 MINI (3) Cman 59 Cooper
11 ?1 NISSAN (11) Titan 57 Altima
12 ?2 HONDA (11) Pport 55 Clarity
13 ?4 INFINITI (3) Q50 53 QX60
14 ?7 AUDI (8) Q8 51 A4/Allroad
15 ?4 LINCOLN (4) Nautilu 50 MKZ
16 — FORD (9) F-150 50 EcoSport
17 ?7 BMW (8) X5 46 i3
18 ?5 BUICK (5) Regal 46 Encore
19 ?7 CHRYSLER (2) Pacifif 44 300
20 — MITSUBISHI (2) Outland 43 Outland SP
21 ?1 MERCEDES (5) S-Class 42 GLA
22 ?2 GMC (6) Canyon 40 Yukon
23 ?4 TESLA (3) Model X 39 Model 3
24 ?1 VOLVO (5) XC90 38 XC40
25 ?3 CHEVROLET(11) Colorad 37 Tahoe
26 ?3 JEEP (5) Wrangle 35 G Cherokee
27 ?9 VOLKSWAGEN (5) Atlas 33 GTI
28 ?9 ACURA (3) MDX 29 TLX
29 — ALFA ROMEO (2) Giulia 27 Stelvio
30 — CADILLAC (3) XT4 23 XT5
We don't have sufficient data to rank Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Jaguar, Land Rover, Maserati, Mitsubishi, Ram, or Smart.
CR
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:42 pm to Obtuse1
This is just ranking models and not brands?
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:45 pm to Obtuse1
2017 Jeeps were money, but then just steadily got more unrealiable.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:46 pm to fightin tigers
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This is just ranking models and not brands?
No. It is ranking by brand. The listed models are the least reliable model they make then the average reliability score (1-100) and the second model listed is their most reliable model.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:47 pm to Jcorye1
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2017 Jeeps were money, but then just steadily got more unrealiable.
2018 a new wrangler came out. Usually takes them a couple years to iron it out.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:47 pm to fightin tigers
quote:false. Read op.
This is just ranking models and not brands?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:47 pm to Obtuse1
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No. It is ranking by brand. The listed models are the least reliable model they make then the average reliability score (1-100) and the second model listed is their most reliable model.
Ahhh, ok.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:49 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
This is just ranking models and not brands?
It's overall brand and then least reliable and most reliable model in that brand.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:49 pm to Obtuse1
Porsche near the very top? No surprise.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:49 pm to Obtuse1
Consumer Reports is an echo chamber, I don’t trust anything they put out.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:49 pm to fightin tigers
In 10 years this list will look hilarious.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:49 pm to Jcorye1
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2017 Jeeps were money,
They were 20th in 2016 for the 2017 model year
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:50 pm to Obtuse1
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Dodge jumps 13 spots (Dodge Chrysler Infiniti and Mini all moved up due to few redesigns and shrinking lineups
This is gonna rustle some jimmies
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:52 pm to Obtuse1
Weird. Every Chevy me or my family had growing up was bulletproof. We had a Ford and Toyota along the way that were shite
Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:58 pm to Gaston
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Consumer Reports is an echo chamber, I don’t trust anything they put out.
That is a pretty difficult position to argue with cars at least since all their data comes from member/owners that fill out pretty extensive questionnaires every year.
They also are fairly insulated given they don't take ad dollars.
Reading probably a dozen brand-specific car forums regularly I would say in general terms they are more accurate than anyone else especially JD Powers.
None of this means you aren't going to get a Lemon Lexus or a Peach Caddillac.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:03 pm to Mstate
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Weird. Every Chevy me or my family had growing up was bulletproof. We had a Ford and Toyota along the way that were shite
Anecdotal does not equal statistical.
Plus this is for the 2020 model year not previous years, it changes year to year due to many factors. Further, you have high variability in some brands from most to least reliable. CR has specific model info for older used cars as well. There is also the overarching trend of cars getting more reliable in general.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:05 pm to Obtuse1
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1 ?2 LEXUS (10) LS 81 IS
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:06 pm to Obtuse1
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5 ?1 GENESIS (3) G90 71 G70
monday night football money doing work
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:16 pm to Obtuse1
Consumer Reports isn’t reliable. There are a few vehicles on here that are contradictions
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:27 pm to Obtuse1
My problem with the CR reliability ratings is that it's based on owner surveys and AFAIK they have no way to account for market segment differences i.e. certain brands may have a larger number of owners that treat the vehicles like shite and consequently are more likely to report major engine and transmission problems.
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Or simply brands that don't have certain classes of vehicles in their lineup that are more likely to see rough usage like heavy duty trucks.
ETA:
Or simply brands that don't have certain classes of vehicles in their lineup that are more likely to see rough usage like heavy duty trucks.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 4:30 pm
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