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re: Construction community in a panic- I’m hearing ICE is Havoc

Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15064 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:09 pm to
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I am sure the CFO knows GAFs numbers inside and out. He is off saying there are small margins on a roofing job for an average contractor.

They're not just the manufacturer, they have a ton of data on the cost stack. They even break it down by city/state and flag weather events.

But either way, margins erode or prices go up. The likelihood is that it's some combination of those. Which still means higher prices. Unless all the roofers in the country decide that they want to start running at 10% gross margin.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
3706 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:10 pm to
One of my good friends owns a roofing company and all of his employees are black men except one younger fresh out of HS white kid. He’s owned the business over 20 years. You don’t have to hire illegals
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175711 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:11 pm to
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Youre not getting white people back into roofing, or concrete. Not going to happen.


Around here, the best concrete crews are Mennonites and there is a group of black finishers who help each other out that have been finishing for decades

Sure there are illegals too but their work is shite compared to the Mennonites.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14420 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Everyone in the construction industry is in a panic


I mean…
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75236 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:13 pm to
Hopefully it slows or halts these mass shitbox developments set to destroy the Northshore.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:13 pm to
I can verify that ICE is active in Gonzales as I know a Honduran who was arrested and taken away. He’s been here illegally for like 20 years and his siblings are American.

Important to remember that many are not illegal now having attended court hearings and checked in properly, but their status can change in the very near future.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83120 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:14 pm to
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black finishers


grew up in construction, that’s all I ever saw, and we had some good ones
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175711 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:17 pm to
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They're not just the manufacturer, they have a ton of data on the cost stack. They even break it down by city/state and flag weather events.



I am just saying that it's not unusual to have a profit of $100+ per sq after all hard and soft costs. An average roof is 30 sq and a crew can knock that out in a day so $3K profit for a one-day job. Throw in the O&P allowance and that number grows.

Source: My crew did a roof on a HUD property this week for an insurance claim.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:17 pm to
Currently they are rounding up people who frick children and kill bitches.

Do you want those types building your home and picking your eggs?

Not me.

Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
1994 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:17 pm to
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Naw, the contractors did not lower the prices because of the illegals. They just made more profit. Same with the rest in construction


Most lucid post in this thread.

Cut freebies and they'll be plenty of workers.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175711 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:18 pm to
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grew up in construction, that’s all I ever saw, and we had some good ones



You know the ones I am referring to then. They are all the same group. The older ones died off or retired but their friends and family are still out there doing work. They all help each other out on larger jobs like parking lots.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281928 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:19 pm to
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Around here, the best concrete crews are Mennonites


Damn, wish we had them here. Even in JNU, most residential construction is done by illegals or those with visas. Fish processing has also been taken over.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
6941 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:21 pm to
I'm pro this.
As some one who used to be in construction they are terrible to work around they have zero etiquette and only concern themselves with their work and when you call them out they forget the English real quick.
They are dirty and give less then zero fricks about even the slightest safety precautions.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75236 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:21 pm to
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Many people confuse Mexican crews with crews from further South and think they all work cheaply or do a good job
The crews are that homogeneous? 90+% from one country?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83120 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:21 pm to
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The older ones died off


the ones we had were some hard workers, we did the forming and pouring but man they jumped on it and they did not stop or take breaks until it was done, which as you know you really have to once you start pouring
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175711 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Damn, wish we had them here.


The Mennonites even owned a concrete plant in DeRidder but sold it out to Port Ag. I think one may have reopened a new plant, though. I haven't poured anything in DeRidder in years so I am not positive.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:22 pm to
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Youre not getting white people back into roofing, or concrete. Not going to happen.


White men do it recreationally on the weekend


You are just blinded by your hatred
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
105511 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:23 pm to
I saw an entire roofing crew jump off the 2nd story of a house they were working today. 3 of them injured badly, the rest ran off to the woods. Turns out it was just the dog catcher not ICE.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:24 pm to
50% have criminal records.


That's important to remember.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83120 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:24 pm to
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concrete plant in DeRidder
.

we used to use a company from there when we had jobs in that are, also had a plant in Many, can’t recall their name
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