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re: Construction community in a panic- I’m hearing ICE is Havoc
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:32 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:32 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Good! I hope the companies hiring illegals fold up.
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:32 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
If your job relies on you hiring criminals, get a new line of work.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:32 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
The reality is Illegals will be run off and when welfare has the right constraints on it and it become assistance instead of a way of life, more workers will come back to the workforce. We created this failed formula and it will take time to cure it.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:33 pm to billjamin
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They don't have big enough margins to absorb it the additional labor expense.
Yea, contractors will have a tough time making the mortgage payment on the lake house now.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:34 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Or pay to get them H2B status.
The visa programs undercut American wages, and they result in a large transfer of wealth out of the country, more than 200 billion a year as of 2021.
We're better off ending these labor programs, suffering the short term pain, and letting the market shift back to American labor.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep. Illegals or undependable meth heads. Thats pretty much the choice.
Pay more
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep. Illegals or undependable meth heads. Thats pretty much the choice
At least with illegals the job gets finished and not 80% done.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:37 pm to redneck
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Friends in the roofing, masonry, and shipyard business have all experienced similar. Don't hire illegals and you have nothing to worry about
You don't want a white or black guy nailing shingles on your house. 1) They are virtually impossible to find because the work is too hard/they don't want to do it and 2) the quality isn't there.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:37 pm to Lima Whiskey
I’d love to see someone tell an HS senior, who just wants to game all day, to get a blue collar job. They are out there, but they are the token minority imo.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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You don't want a white or black guy nailing shingles on your house. 1) They are virtually impossible to find because the work is too hard/they don't want to do it and 2) the quality isn't there.
We get the quality of labor we're willing to pay for
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the quality isn't there
The quality on new builds these days is pretty poor
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:41 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
I will be in Metairie tomorrow and need to go to Lowes on Vets and I'm betting the 2 dozen or so Hispanics that hang out in front of the parking lot are no longer gathering there to try to find day labor.
I'll post when I get back home around 12:30 as to what I find.
I'll post when I get back home around 12:30 as to what I find.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:42 pm to Raging Tiger
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I’d love to see someone tell an HS senior, who just wants to game all day, to get a blue collar job. They are out there, but they are the token minority imo.
I think the impulse is still there, but we broke the tradition of family jobs (along with cratering the pay). If you grow up wood working with your father, it makes sense to follow him into the family business, or family trade.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:42 pm to RaginCajunz
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It's tough when your slaves get taken away
Well, let's not mince words here.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:43 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Man. I wonder if you could have a crew of illegals and pay them cash every Friday. But then on thursday you have your friends dressed as Ice come and scare them off. Next week repeat and infinite free labor.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:45 pm to billjamin
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They don't have big enough margins to absorb it the additional labor expense.
You have no idea how much of a margin there is on a roof job. Your rep at GAF doesn't either. There's a reason that so many storm chasers only do roofs and don't bother with any other repairs. The margins are huge and it's quick money unlike interior work after a storm.
Also, not all illegals work cheaper. They all know the market price and charge the same as everyone else so cheaper work from Mexican crews during a storm is a myth.
Hondurans will work cheaper but they are scam artist and do shite work.
Many people confuse Mexican crews with crews from further South and think they all work cheaply or do a good job.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:45 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Lots of panderers to illegals on here
This thread is rustling their jimmies.
This thread is rustling their jimmies.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:46 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Heard it happened to a Block Construction project in Lake Charles a couple weeks ago. Stop hiring illegals!
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:48 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We get the quality of labor we're willing to pay for
We had a white/black crew we used for a few jobs and it was probably the crappiest install we've ever put on. Let them go after one job. Guys vehicles broke down in the peoples yard, they were yelling and screaming at each other, one guy was working without a shirt on, and the left at 1:00. That was the only white roofing crew I've seen here.
You could offer to pay some white guys 2x as much as your regular crew and you still couldn't find a crew to do it. Our PJM's are hard workers and it's hard to get them to even do a roof repair in the Louisiana summer.
We haven't had an issue because we only hire insured subs that have their own LLC so they are legal. But I'm sure some of the crew members will start dropping off eventually.
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The quality on new builds these days is pretty poor
Agreed.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:48 pm to back9Tiger
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Heard it happened to a Block Construction project in Lake Charles a couple weeks ago. Stop hiring illegals!
Illegals are currently roofing and framing houses in Morganfield every day on DSLD houses. No one is bothering them.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 4:48 pm to billjamin
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They don't have big enough margins to absorb it the additional labor expense. I was just talking to GAF about this last week.
1 bundle which covers around 33.3 SF is around 45 dollars or so.
Do the math. It's not the price of materials that make a roof 20-25 thousand dollars. There is margin in there....
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