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re: Construction community in a panic- I’m hearing ICE is Havoc
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:17 pm to Zappas Stache
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:17 pm to Zappas Stache
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But ICE is grabbing everyone and totally stopping work. Fine but now we have to stop work and negotiate with legal and citizens to come back to work.
tough shite.
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:19 pm to Klark Kent
Just this week in DFW we have had a school teacher a policeman and 2 preachers charged with raping kids.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:20 pm to Zappas Stache
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I'm all for getting those guys shipped out. But ICE is grabbing everyone and totally stopping work. Fine but now we have to stop work and negotiate with legal and citizens to come back to work.
How else should they do it?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:20 pm to Zappas Stache
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Just this week in DFW we have had a school teacher a policeman and 2 preachers charged with raping kids.
ohh well, what’s one more right? no big deal. another great point.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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What else can I do other than run a background check on the guy I’m interviewing/potentially hiring? Passes a background check, has an LLC, licensed with the state, insured. That’s 4 more things I require than most any other contractor, who normally just hire the cheapest crew possible and just give them an address and say go, without any management.
Do you hire illegals? If so the backgrounds are invalid more than likely, and you know this.
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Ahh yes the once every ten year hypothetical you might have to face
10 years??? That is a pathetic and dishonest attempt. No wonder you are justifying your hiring of illegals. You are part of the problem. I always have things with work at the house that I want to ask questions about what a worker is doing or not doing. It’s not just roofing, and in some areas it is not just every 10 years for roofing repairs. It’s not always an insurance scam looking to get around a deductible or showing up in neighborhoods after big weather events which you may know a lot about.
quote:You are jumping to a different situation after defending your own hiring practices with regards to hiring illegals. You know what’s going on with your hires and your subs.
I can’t interview my subs employees. I don’t hire an electrician then do another interview with his helper. That’s his employee, not mine. I’m not being defensive, just trying to put it plainly.
quote:Then why even bring it up. Regardless of who speaks English in your crew most must be illegals.
Again, wouldn’t be an issue with my company anyway bc the project manager and crew lead is always going to speak English.
Archiving and perusing your post history or even just doing word searches might come up with some info ICE can use for their next raid. This isn’t the sleepy Joe administration helping to bring you in more workers. They will be coming for your crew, and it will be fun to watch.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:22 pm to Sun God
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How else should they do it?
Check IDs and creditials and let legala keep working. But they drag everyone away and take days to clear people. It's harrasment of Hispanics.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:26 pm to Zappas Stache
Once a project has been marked BY ice it's hard to get people to work it. We have 2 big commercial projects that are now idle. The owners are still paying interest on their construction loans but I can't tell them when we can get going again.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:27 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
some people, about a year ago - illegal immigrants don't drive down wages for americans
those same people, now - construction and other trades are about to get a lot more expensive
those same people, now - construction and other trades are about to get a lot more expensive
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:32 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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some people, about a year ago - illegal immigrants don't drive down wages for americans
There are no Americans lining up for those jobs. Now if wages double then maybe some Americans will show up but I doubt they have the skills. But housing is way to expensive now so if we have to pay twice the amount for labor to build them then.....
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:32 pm to Zappas Stache
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Once a project has been marked BY ice it's hard to get people to work it. We have 2 big commercial projects that are now idle. The owners are still paying interest on their construction loans but I can't tell them when we can get going again
the only drivers on the road seriously worried about being pulled over by the police are the ones who have broken the law.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:33 pm to Zappas Stache
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There are no Americans lining up for those jobs. Now if wages double then maybe some Americans will show up but I doubt they have the skills. But housing is way to expensive now so if we have to pay twice the amount for labor to build them then.....
and we’re back, full circle.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:34 pm to Klark Kent
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the only drivers on the road seriously worried about being pulled over by the police are the ones who have broke the law.
Youre hilarious. I wish I lived in a bubble.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:36 pm to TutHillTiger
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Because their donors like cheap slave labor and make a lot of money on it.
Then its not lowering prices as claimed by so many
Had a family member involve me with their house building plans a few years back. We talked to 4 builders. 3 used "migrant" workers. The 4th was a good ole country boy that utilized kids he grew up with, their sons, and some family members. The migrant builders all came in around 420 to 430, with 2 of them exactly at 429K.
The all American crew came in at 412K. His sheet rock crew finished the entire house, mud, taping, and all on a single Saturday. Those other builders werent offering reduced prices, due to their cheaper labor. Thats a fact
The only migrants I ever saw on property were the sod crew, which was a Hispanic owned business anyway
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:38 pm to Klark Kent
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and we’re back, full circle
Except at twice the price.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:38 pm to Zappas Stache
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Youre hilarious. I wish I lived in a bubble.
Want to try that again?
With the well-thought-out points you’ve presented tonight, I’m starting to believe there are plenty of individuals capable of replacing the cheap labor we would lose by strictly enforcing immigration laws.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:43 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
lol do people still think any thread this baw starts is real?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:44 pm to Klark Kent
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I’m starting to believe there are plenty of individuals capable of replacing the cheap labor we would lose by strictly enforcing immigration laws.
Send them my way. But they better be blue eyed blond haired Nordic types because otherwise they wi be hauled off and unable to work for several days until Ice decides they're OK.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:47 pm to Zappas Stache
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Send them my way. But they better be blue eyed blond haired Nordic types because otherwise they wi be hauled off and unable to work for several days until Ice decides they're OK.
oooh, a touch of racism thrown in when pressed. typical.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:48 pm to Klark Kent
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a touch of racism thrown in
That's rich..... I don't know what that phrase means but it's very apropo here.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:51 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:you mean like the time he started a thread about taking his son deer hunting the second weekend of August?
lol do people still think any thread this baw starts is real?
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