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re: Conservative government in UK announces sugar tax on soft drinks industry

Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39245 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:09 pm to
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The subsidies seem to almost encourage cane farmers to not sell their product though.


That is what they want. If every farmer maxed out their crops and put them in the market the price would hit the floor.


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Pure fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be excluded, Because neither of these contains a lot of sugar


If no one watch Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution you should. What he is trying to do is fantastic.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:10 pm to
Conservative and Liberal are basically swapped in Britian.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:33 pm to

They have it so right and we don't. Sugar is why we're an obese nation. Sweet tea in the Siuth, for example.

Read this then always read a label: 4 grams of sugar us 1 teaspoon. Next time you drink 8 Oz of apple juice, just imagine yourself as just ingesting 6+ tsp of raw sugar.

Pat your belly.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66995 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:36 pm to
Just don't let folks getting free food, get high sugar based foods and drinks.
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:44 pm to
No it's not.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41894 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:17 am to
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More nanny state bullshite. Anyone supporting this tax thinks people should be penalized by the government for not living their life as you see fit. This is basically a sin tax.
being fat is a sin
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:15 am to
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

proving the UK is the shithole utopia that US libs strive for when this is what passes for "conservative"

Their 2 parties are even worse in terms of both actually doing big govt liberal shite than ours are and that is saying something.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:22 am to
Good I'm fricking sick of seeing fat little 2 and 3 year olds being handed bottles of full fat Cole

Anything to help put off parents buying this shite is good

And I'm not some health nut or anything but fizzy drinks is something I've pretty easily put behind me over the last 2 or 3 years
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:37 am to
You are one stupid fricker
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2744 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:50 am to
"Let's tax the things we want to reduce, not the things we want to encourage."

So what happens if these sin taxes do their job and reduce consumption? This is a flawed and dangerous argument for the conservatives in GB.

Here is the dirty secret: they don't want us to stop buying cigs, drinking alcohol and, in GB, consuming sugary drinks. It is an easy target to tax without getting (too) much pushback from the public.

This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 8:54 am
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2744 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:52 am to
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They have it so right and we don't. Sugar is why we're an obese nation. Sweet tea in the Siuth, for example.



It will not stop consumption. If they truly wanted to "make a difference for our children's generation," they would ban sugary drinks altogether. This is a means to raise taxes, plain and simple.

The companies who produce these products (Coke/Pepsi) will simply pass the tax on to the consumer - who will gladly pay.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 8:54 am
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1974 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:56 am to
Nothing more than a plain ole money grab. Would be interesting to see where this "sugar tax" cash ends up.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1836 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:57 am to
i read the whole first page and not one mention of a parent, mother or father.

how about kids parents take some responsibility and dont let their kids get fat. lay down some rules limiting the amount of sugary drinks they can have. growing up i could only have a coke like every 3-4 days. the parents should be the one forcing them to go play outside for a while.

government isnt the answer to everything
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 9:10 am to
Sugar tax?! From the Brits?!



LETS RIDE
Posted by brett408
Member since Jan 2005
2426 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 9:35 am to
This has nothing to so with combating "obesity". Sugary drinks are one of the most high volume products sold and the government sees an opportunity to take more money from the population. Sugary drinks are just the vehicle to do that.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25240 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 9:36 am to
I do find it ridiculous that I can buy a bottle of soda chapter than a bottle of water. I bet the stevia industry is in favor of this.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:01 pm to
Obesity is what is going to cripple the NHS.

There is a pretty easy arguement that curving obesity can keep the NHS alive for longer

Plus the money saved is going to schools for PE etc not paying for other cuts
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Also everyone else ends up paying when these people get diabetes and cancer and heart disease.


If you think drinking soft drinks with sugar causes diabetes and heart disease, you are a special kind of stupid.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.



One could argue that healthcare provided for catastrophic acute issues borders on a right.

Maintenance of health/ avoidance of chronic disease is healthcare that is the responsibility of the individual (lifestyle,nutrition, exercise). The current model to deliver "healthcare" via acute services is very poorly suited to address the chronic issues acquired through decades of bad decisions.

The conundrum is that acute life threatening issues can and often come from chronic disease states convoluting my initial statement above.
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